Snozz Combat Rogue
#1
Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:10 PM
My primary build for raiding is 7/31/3 which is the cookie cutter combat raiding spec. I picked this spec due to the current gear/weapons I am running, but am flexible with running Assassin as well usually depends on gear availiblity/raid buffs needed. My secondary spec is for the pvp aspect of the game which is a 10/0/31 Sub build, this spec will have to be left out due to I really enjoy the Arena/pvp aspect that wow has to offer. And no I dont know any secrets, but you'll be the first to know if I find any.
Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
Have Vent and mic.
Do you have an authenticator?
Yes
Typical Weekly Playtime:
On daily easily 3-5+ hrs.
Time Zone:
Eastern Time/Realm time
Previous Guilds:
Back in the day Malediction, Kitten Soup, Nephilim. Currently in Drama Society.
Previous Raiding Experience (Only content completed within 6~12 months of release matters, we don't care that you can solo Kara at 85):
Withtin the last couple of months have done on my Deathknight Cyburn http://us.battle.net...n/Cyburn/simple BoT reg with Halfus Heroic, BwD reg with Magmaw Heroic including parasite control, and Currently 6/7 reg Firelands from pickup runs weekly with Journey to Nowhere/Requiem/Drama.
Why are you applying to us:
Well mainly I would like to run a little more frequently on a weekly basis compared to our 2 day a week raiding schdule, and I feel I can be a great asset to your guild with the Heroic aspect of Firelands and future content. I am a well repected member within guilds that carries on objectives with a face pace, mainly why I switched to my rogue as my main.
Link us your Armory:
http://us.battle.net...en/Snozz/simple
Screenshot of your UI, preferably in a raid environment:
http://i917.photobuc...2511_183510.jpg
World of Logs Report:
http://worldoflogs.c...igsei831ydm6az/
Do you know anyone in guild? If so please list your pals.
Wrath and Kbore
Tell us a bit about yourself:
Well not much really to know about myself besides I play wow a little too much, in transition of going to college, while living at home. Kinda a geek when it comes to video games old and new, and am of 21 years of age.
#7
Posted 26 October 2011 - 11:49 AM
Baleroc and Domo are pretty easy fights for melee, DPS doesn't seem all that great (Shadowcraft has you at 25k, simulationcraft has you at 27k). Took a noticeable dip on Rag as well.
Right now I'm leaning toward a no unless other people can comment on your play from the past.
#8
Posted 26 October 2011 - 03:47 PM
Sobeyet, on 26 October 2011 - 09:32 AM, said:
Yes I am Bloodshed within the WoL. Recently Changed name/Racial for dps increase for the pve aspect.
Sobeyet, on 26 October 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:
Baleroc and Domo are pretty easy fights for melee, DPS doesn't seem all that great (Shadowcraft has you at 25k, simulationcraft has you at 27k). Took a noticeable dip on Rag as well.
Right now I'm leaning toward a no unless other people can comment on your play from the past.
Alright Sobe I need to clarify as of the WoL shown, I have changed up my rotation for a drastic dps increase, as for Rag, Since I cant be behind him, my Expertise was tested here.
As for how good of a player I am, Kaai, I 2 healed Most Heroics with Devarin in the Icc heroics back in the day with Mindfreak(Disc undead Priest), Wrath and me go back to I believe the beginning on Lich king with me dpsing on Cyburn for Naxx content, Heavensarm Ulduar content, Bloodshed ToC content, Artainus and some of my other toons for Icc. As for Cata right now with Cyburn and Drama we cleared BoT/BwD To4W all with heroics of Magmaw(Parasite control) and Halfus. Let me know if you need more feedback.
#9
Posted 26 October 2011 - 03:59 PM
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:
The log was from 3 days ago, what did you change between then and now? What was the impetus for this change, as opposed to doing it say a month ago? Go over the changes you made in detail and post a log of the results.
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:
Don't see a single Nef/Cho'gall/Al'akir kill on your DK. Even on the other bosses the most kills you had was 4. If you were raiding with DS shouldn't you have +15 kills on most of the bosses? And DS is 2/7 heroic FL. Your DK has one kill of Rhyo/Domo, your rogue has 2 kills on the first 6 bosses, no Rag kills. Seems like you're exaggerating your raiding experience. If you've been in DS all this time, why haven't they taken you more? Their raid times are similar to ours so it can't be a schedueling issue.
#10
Posted 26 October 2011 - 04:15 PM
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Specifics please.
Victory is mine yeah surprisingly
I've been laying waiting for your next mistake
I put in work and watch my status escalate" - Gang Starr
#11
Posted 26 October 2011 - 04:52 PM
Sobeyet, on 26 October 2011 - 03:59 PM, said:
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:
The log was from 3 days ago, what did you change between then and now? What was the impetus for this change, as opposed to doing it say a month ago? Go over the changes you made in detail and post a log of the results.
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:
Don't see a single Nef/Cho'gall/Al'akir kill on your DK. Even on the other bosses the most kills you had was 4. If you were raiding with DS shouldn't you have +15 kills on most of the bosses? And DS is 2/7 heroic FL. Your DK has one kill of Rhyo/Domo, your rogue has 2 kills on the first 6 bosses, no Rag kills. Seems like you're exaggerating your raiding experience. If you've been in DS all this time, why haven't they taken you more? Their raid times are similar to ours so it can't be a schedueling issue.
Sorry to misinform you but Helphasto, my Balanced/Resto druid has the Cho'gall Kill which was a couple of months ago, Snozz/Bloodshed has the Al'akir kill which is irrelevent due to the time it was completed, and as far as I know, through my toons, I do not have a Nef kill, eventhough working with Drama on it several months ago around 3rd phase. I recently came back a couple weeks ago before a had a real life move. My spot was not saved in the 25man team and was unable to participate with the raids. Im sorry I exaggerated the Nef/Al'akir kill from several months ago.
Deceax, on 26 October 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:
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Specifics please.
Yes, I have change my rotation from dropping Rapture from my rotation. I used to focus on having the ability up 100% uptime without bleed increase effects which results is a dps loss. I have also have been using Revealing Strike only on 4cp to get the 5th for Eviscerate. This itself increase dps not wasting any cp that would exceed the 5th cp. Even using SnD(slice and dice)refreshing around the 2second mark and only using a cp to start it increases dps itself. Hope this was helpful.
#12
Posted 26 October 2011 - 05:21 PM
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:
Shadowcraft has dropping rupture in your gear without the bleed debuff as a 78.7 DPS increase. Looks like you dropped rupture sometime between the 10/19 and 10/23 raids (you used rupture in the 10/12 and 10/19 raids). Assuming that you implemented the RvS change at the same time, still not seeing the numbers you should be doing.
You upgraded your ring, belt, and cloak since that 10/23 log, but even after taking those upgrades into account your DPS isn't as high as it should be. Unless you have a log of you pulling +23k single target on a raid boss consistently (Shadowcraft has you at 25,820, Simulationcraft has you at 27,094. 23k is pretty reasonable) it's going to be a no.
#13
Posted 26 October 2011 - 05:37 PM
Sobeyet, on 26 October 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:
Shadowcraft has dropping rupture in your gear without the bleed debuff as a 78.7 DPS increase. Looks like you dropped rupture sometime between the 10/19 and 10/23 raids (you used rupture in the 10/12 and 10/19 raids). Assuming that you implemented the RvS change at the same time, still not seeing the numbers you should be doing.
You upgraded your ring, belt, and cloak since that 10/23 log, but even after taking those upgrades into account your DPS isn't as high as it should be. Unless you have a log of you pulling +23k single target on a raid boss consistently (Shadowcraft has you at 25,820, Simulationcraft has you at 27,094. 23k is pretty reasonable) it's going to be a no.
I would like to see how you get your numbers Sobe. Shadowcraft has me at 24k dps with all the buffs throught the 10man raid. Its also showing Rapture to be a 71.5 dps loss using it, and shouldnt be using it unless there is a 30% bleed effect increase. I will have to link another WoL within the next day to show you where I stand with single target dps without the use of Rapture within the 10man raid.
#14
Posted 26 October 2011 - 06:02 PM
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:
You had different buffs throughout the 3 logs I found of you (10/12 you had a feral druid, 10/19 you had a boomkin, etc.) so the 25.8k is a general guideline. On 10/23 you had:
Buffs:
Food/Flask/Pot - If you didn't use it consistently throughout the raid, that's your own fault.
30% haste - Shaman/Mage
5% all stats - Druid
5% crit - Ele Shaman
3% damage - Arcane Mage
10% haste - Ele shaman (had a shadow priest in the raid)
10% AP - Paladin
Agility - Warrior
Debuffs:
12% armor - Prot Warrior
4% physical damage - Combat rogue
8% spell damage - Missing
5% spell crit - Missing
30% bleed - Missing
That has you at 24,498.
On something like 10/23's Domo, you were at 17,352 EDPS. With the blade flurry opportunities on that fight you should be higher than the single target sim. So whether you want to say you should be doing 24.5k or 25.8k or 27k, the bottom line is that you're coming up well short. Was better on Baleroc, but you died (Though best case scenario, if you stayed alive and maintained your DPS you'd still be 4k shy on a target-dummy style boss. Doesn't bode well for a fight with somewhat difficult mechanics. And it doesn't look like you were popping smoke bombs before the crystal to reduce the number of stacks).
P.S., it's called rupture. Rapture is the thing Harold Camping always makes predictions about.
#15
Posted 26 October 2011 - 06:52 PM
Sobeyet, on 26 October 2011 - 06:02 PM, said:
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:
You had different buffs throughout the 3 logs I found of you (10/12 you had a feral druid, 10/19 you had a boomkin, etc.) so the 25.8k is a general guideline. On 10/23 you had:
Buffs:
Food/Flask/Pot - If you didn't use it consistently throughout the raid, that's your own fault.
30% haste - Shaman/Mage
5% all stats - Druid
5% crit - Ele Shaman
3% damage - Arcane Mage
10% haste - Ele shaman (had a shadow priest in the raid)
10% AP - Paladin
Agility - Warrior
Debuffs:
12% armor - Prot Warrior
4% physical damage - Combat rogue
8% spell damage - Missing
5% spell crit - Missing
30% bleed - Missing
That has you at 24,498.
On something like 10/23's Domo, you were at 17,352 EDPS. With the blade flurry opportunities on that fight you should be higher than the single target sim. So whether you want to say you should be doing 24.5k or 25.8k or 27k, the bottom line is that you're coming up well short. Was better on Baleroc, but you died (Though best case scenario, if you stayed alive and maintained your DPS you'd still be 4k shy on a target-dummy style boss. Doesn't bode well for a fight with somewhat difficult mechanics. And it doesn't look like you were popping smoke bombs before the crystal to reduce the number of stacks).
P.S., it's called rupture. Rapture is the thing Harold Camping always makes predictions about.
Again as of shadowcraft, including buffs changing per fight with your calculations I should be pulling 23.5k dps including Flask/Potions/Food. And to correct you Shadowpriests dont give a 10% haste buff, its 5% spell haste which would be irrelevant, but yes the Shaman was supplying windfury. and yes sorry that i was spelling it Rapture, oblivously was never good in english. Ill have an updated WoL for application tommorrow if still interested.
#16
Posted 26 October 2011 - 11:10 PM
Victory is mine yeah surprisingly
I've been laying waiting for your next mistake
I put in work and watch my status escalate" - Gang Starr
#17
Posted 27 October 2011 - 12:39 AM
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:
So is it 23.5k or 24k? If you really want to waste time nitpicking you should at least be consistent. But try not to get hung up on that; here are the settings I'm using:

Missing 3 debuffs, not getting tricks from another rogue, and not using rupture.
But again, you're missing the point. Let's say for the sake of argument it was 23.5k. You're not pulling 23.5k. That's the issue here, not whether or not I know how to use a spreadsheet.
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:
Try reading it again, I never said shadow priests give 10% haste. The part on the left? Those are the buffs that are relevant to you. Notice how I didn't include things like 10% spell damage. In fact it's in the same order as the shadowcraft spreadsheet (aside from pots, which I lumped in with the other consumables for the sake of brevity), since I went down the list to see what you had. If you pay attention you might even notice that the text was taken from the spreadsheet (calling bloodlust 30% haste like in the spreadsheet, I figured if you could follow that you can follow the 10% haste as windfury). The part in parentheses implies that normally the ele shaman would be inclined to drop wrath of air, but since a shadow priest was available he should have dropped windfury.
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:
Well to be honest you're failing pretty horribly at the "can take criticism" part of the app. As I mentioned earlier it would have to be a really impressive log.
#18
Posted 27 October 2011 - 01:06 AM
Sobeyet, on 27 October 2011 - 12:39 AM, said:
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:
So is it 23.5k or 24k? If you really want to waste time nitpicking you should at least be consistent. But try not to get hung up on that; here are the settings I'm using:

Missing 3 debuffs, not getting tricks from another rogue, and not using rupture.
But again, you're missing the point. Let's say for the sake of argument it was 23.5k. You're not pulling 23.5k. That's the issue here, not whether or not I know how to use a spreadsheet.
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:
Try reading it again, I never said shadow priests give 10% haste. The part on the left? Those are the buffs that are relevant to you. Notice how I didn't include things like 10% spell damage. In fact it's in the same order as the shadowcraft spreadsheet (aside from pots, which I lumped in with the other consumables for the sake of brevity), since I went down the list to see what you had. If you pay attention you might even notice that the text was taken from the spreadsheet (calling bloodlust 30% haste like in the spreadsheet, I figured if you could follow that you can follow the 10% haste as windfury). The part in parentheses implies that normally the ele shaman would be inclined to drop wrath of air, but since a shadow priest was available he should have dropped windfury.
Snozz9913, on 26 October 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:
Well to be honest you're failing pretty horribly at the "can take criticism" part of the app. As I mentioned earlier it would have to be a really impressive log.
Again Sobe I am taking everything said into account, I didnt include pre-potting on the shadowcraft eventhough I should. The dps generated on these type of sites are used a guideline, when you take into acoount that fights you want to be mobile or target switching, these will all affect the single target dps maximum that can be obtained. Thankyou for showing me at least how your getting your information.
#19
Posted 27 October 2011 - 01:22 AM
Snozz9913, on 27 October 2011 - 01:06 AM, said:
Of course, but that's why I specifically mentioned Baleroc and Domo, which are basically 2 of the easiest fights for melee you'll find nowadays (on normal anyway, heroic baleroc can suck for melee). You don't have to move out of range on normal baleroc or switch targets. The fight is a giant target dummy. And you still weren't pulling the numbers. If you can't get close on a fight like that, how can we expect you to do it on heroic alysrazor while you have to dodge brushfires, meteors, solo interrupt every fieroblast, and switch between initiates, hatchlings, and Aly? And as I mentioned before, your DPS on domo should be higher than the sim as combat. You can just destroy the adds with blade flurry.
Spend less time making excuses for yourself and more time on how you can improve. Even if you're doing 23k or 24k or 25k there are always ways to get better. There are 2 constants in being competitive at anything - you will fuck up, and you can do better next time. Recognize the prior, emphasize the latter.
#20
Posted 27 October 2011 - 01:44 AM
Sobeyet, on 27 October 2011 - 01:22 AM, said:
Spend less time making excuses for yourself and more time on how you can improve. Even if you're doing 23k or 24k or 25k there are always ways to get better. There are 2 constants in being competitive at anything - you will fuck up, and you can do better next time. Recognize the prior, emphasize the latter.
There goes my general strategy. Back to the drawing board.
(just padding the post count late when no one will notice).

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