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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:43 AM

Discuss your talents and tell us how long you have been this particular spec:
Since cata's release i've been playing discipline because it's been consistently strong and the other priests in Summit were holy-bots only. I've also played Holy and Shadow.
My talents are sometimes cookiecutter, sometimes vary per encounter, and are sometimes just bewildering if looking from the outside in. I mostly cater my spec to the needs of the guild and the encounter in progress.

Sometimes I have to pick things up such as Inspiration if the holy priests are exclusively raid healing and we have no shaman. Sometimes I spec into Veiled Shadows if the encounter is longer and has no time to catch up on mana. These are just a few examples of the many things I alter in my spec choices (and the most common)


Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
Yes

Do you have an authenticator?
No, and oddly my account has never been compromised.

Typical Weekly Playtime:
I tend to only play during raid times + pvp, so it's usually between 16 and 20 hours weekly.

Time Zone:
CST

Previous Guilds:
I was in Heresiarch I think in the Fall of 2009.
Summit: Spring 2010 - Sept 2011
Summit disbanded and I joined V A N Q U I S H on Executus US. When I joined the guild was US 24th but little to my knowledge, the guild's progress was in a freefalling decline. The guild ended up being more stressful than a hobby should be yet wasn't yielding the results of a top 30 guild so I went on hiatus while I was there.

Previous Raiding Experience (Only content completed within 6~12 months of release matters, we don't care that you can solo Kara at 85):
I cleared everything in T11 while it was current and cleared up to 3/7 H Firelands. I put in many attempts on 25 H Baleroc as discipline before the nerfs. We would have had it earlier but we were having troubles with torment and RNG

Why are you applying to us:
I want to rejoin Heresiarch because I miss the atmosphere of it. I miss Sobe's condescending yet invaluable advice. I miss Wrath's impartiality. I miss the nonsense that goes on in raid. I miss a lot of things about Heresiarch that I believe don't exist in other guilds. I think Summit was the only hyper-progression focused guild for me. We were doing pretty well and we had loads of fun at the same time. All of the other top 100 US guilds pale in comparison to Summit when I think of how much fun I can have there. I want to revisit my roots and hope you guys will believe me when I say that i've grown up quite a bit since my last membership.

Link us your Armory:
http://us.battle.net...Floaties/simple

Screenshot of your UI, preferably in a raid environment:
Since I don't have an active account (i'll only reactivate upon acceptance) and I don't have my old computer, I don't have any screenshots. I most recently was using TukUI.

World of Logs Report:
Summit is now inactive on WoL so there are a limited number of logs to take a look at.

This is one where I got the #1 H Al'Akir as disc. (now #3)
http://worldoflogs.c...ugvxzedj9sr4dc/


Tell us a bit about yourself:
I don't know how many of the oldies are still in Heresiarch. I'm still pretty much the same. I goof around a lot but I know when to turn it off.

I really look forward to raiding here again if you'll have me.

I will reactivate my account and xfer immediately if I get the green light!


P.S. I'm good to play any spec as needed. (holy is boring though)



I found this good bit in Stranger's app

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Phil progressively got worse with trolling and such to the point his RL friends started ignoring him. Robert (Passa) doesn't even talk to him anymore after events that happened between them. Don't get me wrong, he was a good player and all but he was horrible to try to do anything with. I think it was Wrathblood that was in one of the LoL games that we had with a Summit team, that Phil pretty much lost it for us cause he was acting like a kid the whole time.

And with Shivas he like went to another server or some shit then one day he was in Summit but never showed up for raid or anything to my knowledge.


I just want to say I have 0 baggage. I still hang out with the Summit guys every day. We still have loads of fun on LoL and zero drama. Most of them are raiding in Limelight or Requiem at the moment. Stranger fell off the map at some point with us at Summit. I think he raided a little bit with us at the start of Cata, but I don't know the details. He stuck around and played LoL for a while but he hasn't talked to anybody in Summit for well over a few months (at least not in vent).

Passa and I had some troubles having to do with money that Stranger doesn't know about and I was not the offender. We sorted everything out and Passa still visits our vent periodically. Please please don't take his officious and unnecessary claims to my trollery seriously. In fact, I was very involved with Summit's leadership and strategies. I spoke with everyone in the guild regularly and during Firelands (after Yoko retired) I made all of the decisions having to do with healing, and offered many noted suggestions for strategies. Even though I was not officer rank, I was given the privilege to read officer chat during progression because rather than trolling, I was very committed and involved in everything Summit did. The people in Summit were my friends and we worked very well together. There's a reason i'm the one still hanging out with the Summit guys and he's pandering around being mean on your forums.



We didn't have a spot for Shivaz because he went on a short hiatus after his father's passing before he really started raiding with us. His slot was filled by the time he was ready to come back and he waited a good 4-5 months to start raiding before giving up on Summit. I thought I would spare Shivaz from Stranger's misinformation as well.

P.S.S. Stranger wasn't with us for 500 LK attempts. We did 323 attempts before killing it. He joined the guild half way through but wasn't there for the kill. We subbed Stranger in as our 3rd supplementary dk when Laira had to work nights and Muraza couldn't show up.

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Although, Stranger was with us to farm and tack H LK onto his resume!


P.S.S.S. ~If that really means anything
I want to say that I have absolutely no problem with Stranger. I am merely an instrument of internets justice (a white knight, if you will) and I must defend my honor and expose fraudulent claims!
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:32 AM

What an unexpected treat for my Friday morning.

Regarding Stranger, I don't really care how many attempts he had on heroic LK or how long he was with Summit. He's in Heresiarch now, and seems to be a decent enough dude. I'll just spare everyone the petty back-and-forth and write off his comments as a one-sided opinion. People are more likely to use hyperbole or self-aggrandize when talking behind someone's back, tru story. Same goes for whatever is going on between you and Passa; none of my business and it has no bearing on the app.

My biggest concerns would be for you flaking out or causing drama, in that order. It seems like you did stay in Summit for a while, though I have no idea if you took extended breaks or something. And just because I think it's funny, here's an old post that sums it up:

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Question: What do the following things have in common?

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As far as the drama, we're a smaller group now so there's generally less to worry about than ever. I've had to tone down the asshole tendencies a bit as a GM, though I was telling Decocks the other week that I don't have anyone to argue with. Wrath has some good banter, but he's more of the Oddjob in this operation (Gunther is Pussy Galore). But if we did take you you'd probably be kept on a tight leash until we figure out if you're going to be a problem.

With that being said, I know you're a good player and you might be able to teach our healing priest a thing or two since she recently went disc. Extra barrier/pain suppression would probably make heroic Baleroc a joke. Though we're not exactly hurting for another healer/priest either. In a perfect world I'd probably be looking for a prot/fury warrior or a DPS/resto shaman.

I'll have to give some thought to this, I also don't want you reactivate/transfer for nothing. If anyone else has comments feel free to post.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:39 AM

I've outgrown flakiness. I made a pledge over a year ago on this forum and I stayed with Summit through the hard times and more. The only downtime I had was after the exhausting LK progression. I took a break until Cata released and jumped right in for t11/12 progression. I spent extra time talking strats, farming mats, and doing 10 man runs to get more work in on the harder bosses.

I can't see myself stirring the pot at all. I'm too aloof these days to get very worked up over something not going as well as it could be in WoW and i've always been good at working with people. I've grown up a lot since I was last in Heresiarch. I was a high school junior and now i'm a piano major living on my own. I've learned to take responsibility for my actions, i've learned to not burn bridges, i've learned that it's ok to be wrong sometimes, and i've learned to micromanage myself and keep composure 10 times better than I used to.

I know i'm really putting myself out there for some harsh criticism and that's ok because i've always been passionate about WoW. My fondest memories were when I was in Heresiarch and Summit. I belong on Drenden and while I can get into any guild I want, I wouldn't feel at home. Most top guilds have been a tight-knit core for years with extremely low retention of their other members. Most guilds between top-notch and subpar simply feel so tryhard. It feels like top 50-150 US guilds are so ambitious yet they don't have the tools or knowledge to be in the top 50, they spend a lot of time complaining and doing haphazard/unorthodox things to get the extra edge. Heresiarch was a fun guild to be a part of. The leadership was always stable, the raid nights were pleasant, and while ambition to perform well was certainly there, people weren't getting anxiety attacks over the guild's progression. I miss the combined qualities of Heresiarch.

I don't want you to think i'm a conceited asshole or that i'm going to be elitist either. I've been around the block a hundred million times. I went from being a decent shadow priest to being one of the top disc priests in the world, but I have no intention of cool-kidding over it. I just want to relax while trying my best at the same time.

I understand that you have a disc priest and Stranger is your new spriest. If you have the room, i'm able to play any spec and i'll happily offer my insight to both of them. I see Hecatus still visits these forums so there doesn't seem to be a shortage of spriest knowledge here.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:03 PM

Most "top" US guilds think they're a lot better than they are. That's why they say top 50-100 US, because top 400 World doesn't sound as good (everyone has an epeen to flex). Between that and the dip in 25-man raiding in general (Juggernaut, Cuties Only, Deus Vox, etc. all dead) it's hard for anyone that's not a brand name to stay together long-term. The only US guilds that are relevant on a global scale (read: actually have an outside shot at killing the last heroic boss before the Euros) are a handful - vodka, Premo, Blood Legion, and Exodus (in some order, maybe you want to toss in another name to round out the top 5, but they seem to be the most consistent imo). And even then the only way the US would get a world first heroic Deathwing kill is if an EMP nuke went off in the skies over Finland.

As far as your role, you'd probably be switching between disc/shadow depending on the encounter. Most of our heroic kills are pretty recent so we don't 2 heal them quite yet, but you'd be our 5th healer not including Gunther so there would be some rotating in and out.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:40 PM

AHAHHAHAHAA YES NO COMMENTS HERE LOL
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 01:06 PM

Sobie could indeed use a good foil, though I have to say I think of myself more as a Random Task than Oddjob as I'm not really a hat guy.

I'll skip past various obvious points and cut to the chase. Sobie noted that 10s just innately have less drama than 25s, however, as we reminded ourselves when we added Phayth & Co a while back, it can certainly still pop up. But we have no tolerance for it. When Phayth started causing trouble, she was gone before the night was done. The roster's in good shape right now, and we like to keep it that way so that if someone's suddenly out (work, family emergency) we don't miss a beat, and that goes for kicking someone who causes drama (ok, Phayth's the only person its happened to, but the capacity to handle it is there).

Also, while drama isn't tolerated, its ok if people aren't best buddies. Some people like each other more than others, but as long as it doesn't rear its head as drama, its not a problem. Heck, that goes for me as well. Sure, I'll name names. I HATE ALL OF YOU. Except obviously Gunther, who I love, and I express it by keeping him chained up in my basement. Objectively, its probably better to be hated.

Anyway, gruff/creepy comments aside, a disc/shadow priest isn't one of the top 3-4 spec combos we're looking for (I'd add Bear/Boomkin, and Blood/frost dk to the 2 sobie listed above), but it might come in 5th and is something we can work with. Also, its nice to see people grow up and mature as they do so. Hopefully you haven't changed too much. I have pretty much zero concerns about you being able to play or knowing your stuff.

Edit - Hmm, maybe I'm not Random Task. I knew I'd seen his name in the press a while back but couldn't recall what for. Well, it goes with my 3rd paragraph so I'll leave it.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 01:43 PM

View PostWrathblood, on 21 October 2011 - 01:06 PM, said:

Edit - Hmm, maybe I'm not Random Task. I knew I'd seen his name in the press a while back but couldn't recall what for. Well, it goes with my 3rd paragraph so I'll leave it.





If Kimi was still here I'd make a fembot joke.

Going to respond to Wrath's post from our recruiting thread here since I want Phil to know what the expectations are and for people that were here for the last go around to have a say:

View PostWrathblood, on 21 October 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

Did Phil ever cause real drama or was he just a tard, I can't remember at this point. I recall Passa causing minor drama, and the two of them causing trouble, but I thought it was after he had left. I have to say I respect that he's willing to put himself up for a beating to come back, which is basically what Lock was, apparently, unwilling to do.

Obviously from a play standpoint he'd be an asset, and if he's likely to cause drama, then also obviously no. If he's merely flaky (wtf? There's no "e" in flaky?), well, we've been willing to tolerate flaky but productive people in the past (UHF, Interruption, Lolsup, etc). While those were generally at times when we REALLY needed them at least short-term, in his favor there's at least reason to think he's improved. Obviously, though, he's still Phil.


Well there were 2 incidents that wouldn't be tolerated if it happened again. One was when he (and Passa) alt-F4'd during Rotface (or Festergut, I always get the two confused). The other was when we were having the guild PVP night in Nagrand arena and he griefed us by interfering during our matches (He had already left and was in Summit at the time. That's the one that got him banned from our forums). Other than that it was just random arguing on the forums and being flaky. None of the forum stuff was too bad, as far as the flakiness his attendance was fine when he was raiding, but he randomly quit to PVP (shortly after the alt-F4) then transferred to another server (Moon Guard?).


I'm not the type to hold a grudge so I don't have a problem with giving him a shot, though as I mentioned we'd probably want to keep an eye on him. But that's not to mean that he (or anyone else for that matter) should feel compelled to neuter himself - people either fit in or they don't. Think the only people that were here back then were Gunther, Decocks, Stab, and Morb. Don't think any of them really care (though feel free to post or PM me if I'm wrong). We should probably check with Hesher as well just in case.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:01 PM

I vaguely remember oshi and passa but from what I do remember... Oshibo was a tard as far as behavior went, but he was a dumbass in high school so I can't fault him too much for that. I don't remember any drama coming from him it was passa who was more of a dick. Again these are vague recollections and I don't really have too much of an opinion personality wise beyond that. I do think we could use an all star healer since it's something we've lacked since Serror stopped raiding. I'm pretty confident sobie/wrath can crush drama before it becomes a problem and I think our raid group right now is so drama free that it's not hard to recognize when a problem is coming from someone who recently joined *cough phayth *cough. I give it a thumbs up.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:50 PM

Deceaux, I think you had only been in the guild for a few weeks before I left. Other than alt-f4ing I never caused any trouble. I kept anything that I thought might upset someone in a whisper, usually talking to Sobe... which he tended to use later as ammunition on the forums.


I plan on having a similar commitment that I had with Summit. I'm no longer just wondering where I could go or how progressed I can get. I'm more interested in simply enjoying the game and enjoying the time I spend with a team. I really buckled down and got through the raiding sludge with those guys. We did H LK, H Nef, H Al'Akir, Sinestra... all of those encounters were enormously frustrating at times but rather than alt-f4 I was belting out suggestions concerning healing and positioning. I was there for every pull of each of those (except when my heatsink busted and I missed some days of Sinestra).

You can believe me when I say that flakiness isn't a question. I want to join Heresiarch to stay. Meaning until Heresiarch inexplicably fizzles or i'm physically not able to raid anymore (not likely).
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:53 PM

So, the $64,000 question: would you re-roll Panda Monk if we asked you?
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:55 PM

Does that translate to tauren priest? I think it just went right over my head.

I think i'd be fembelf for arcane torrent opness.

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Ok, I see what you're saying. Probably, yea. That looks sweet. Depends on how much I like arcane torrent though.

I haven't looked at mmo lately
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:38 PM

Its ok, I'm just messing with you.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:43 PM

huehuehue

I'll be lurking around and answering questions until I get a definite.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:50 PM

Pretty sure he's destined to be a Tauren:

View PostPuddingcup, on 16 April 2010 - 09:32 AM, said:

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Back to the app, I'll probably see if anyone else has an opinion (either here or in-game) and make up my mind sometime tonight or tomorrow.

As a little pop quiz, here's the strat I'm thinking of for Baleroc. Tweaks, suggestions, thoughts?

View PostSobeyet, on 20 October 2011 - 06:22 PM, said:

Baleroc:

Shards cast every 35 secs, lasts 25 secs, 1 stack per second. Shard always spawns on the non-tank closest to Baleroc.

CDs:

  • Dispersion - 2 min CD (75 secs with glyph, shouldn't need it for the rotation below), 6 secs, 90% reduction
  • PW: Barrier - 3 min CD, 10 secs, 25% reduction
  • Pain Suppression - 3 min CD, 8 secs, 40% reduction
  • Aura Mastery - 2 min CD, 6 secs, ~14% reduction
  • Hand of Sacrifice - 2 min CD, 12 secs, 30% transfer
  • Soul Link - No CD, 20% transfer (25% with glyph)
  • Raptor Strike - No CD, 5 secs, 20% reduction
  • Mirror of Broken Images - 1 min CD, 10 secs, ~24% reduction (BH trinket, 125 marks. I'll get one by Sunday, assuming Wrath has one for tanking already)


If we rotate these CDs we shouldn't have a problem taking 2 people per shards. I'd actually say a 15/10 stack rotation would be best (with CDs used for the 15, and 10 should be perfectly healable).

It would look something like this, assuming the comp from last night:

  • 0:00 - 1st crystal (Hesher)
    • 0:19 - 19-25 ticks, Dispersion (Hesher)
  • 0:35 - 2nd crystal (Wrath / Flask)
    • 0:40 - 5-15 stacks, Barrier, Mirror of Broken Images (Wrath)
    • 0:50 - 16-25 stacks (Flask)
  • 1:10 - 3rd crystal (Sobe / Decocks)
    • 1:17 - 7-15 stacks, Pain Suppression, Raptor Strike, Mirror (Sobe)
    • 1:25 - 16-25 stacks (Decocks)
  • 1:45 - 4th crystal (Kbore/Hesher)
    • 1:54 - 9-15 stacks, Aura Mastery, Soul Link (Kbore)
    • 2:00 - 16-25 stacks (Hesher)
  • 2:20 - 5th crystal (Wrath / Flask)
    • 2:25 - 5-15 stacks, Hand of Sacrifice, Mirror (Wrath)
    • 2:35 - 16-25 stacks (Flask)
  • 2:55 - 6th crystal spawns (Sobe / Decocks)
    • 3:00 - 5-15 stacks, Raptor Strike, Mirror (Sobe)
    • 3:10 - 16-25 stacks (Decocks)
  • 3:20 - 7th crystal (Hesher / Kbore)
    • 3:29 - 9-15 stacks, Dispersion (Hesher)
    • 3:35 - 16-25 stacks, Soul Link (Kbore)
  • 3:55 - 8th crystal (Wrath / Flask)
    • 4:00 - 5-15 stacks, Barrier, Mirror (Wrath)
    • 4:10 - 16-25 stacks (Flask)
  • 4:30 - 9th crystal (Sobe / Decocks)
    • 4:37 - 7-15 stacks, Pain Suppression, Raptor Strike, Mirror (Sobe)
    • 4:40 - 16-25 stacks (Decocks)
  • 5:05 - 10th crystal (Hesher / Kbore)
    • 5:14 - 9-15 stacks, Aura Mastery (Hesher)
    • 5:20 - 16-25 stacks (Kbore)
  • 5:40 - 11th crystal (Wrath / Flask)
    • 5:45 - 5-15 stacks, Hand of Sacrifice, Mirror (Wrath)
    • 5:55 - Enrage in 5 secs, hope he's dead.


Might be a little hard to digest, so here are individual assignments:

  • Hesher - Dispersion on 1st and 7th crystal
  • Beiber - Barrier on 2nd and 8th crystal, Pain Suppression on 3rd and 9th crystal
  • Cory - Aura Mastery 4th and 10th crystal, Hand of Sacrifice 5th and 11th crystal
  • Wrath - Pop mirror every time you're eating a crystal
  • Heal your fearless leader on the 6th crystal.

If any other DPS has that trinket (or has time to get one before Sunday), it'll make the healing a lot easier.


View PostSobeyet, on 21 October 2011 - 11:33 AM, said:

Here's a diagram for how our positioning should go:

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  • Skull is Baleroc
  • Orange is Kaai
  • Blue is crystal spawn point
  • Smaller red circle is where melee should be with the debuff
  • Green circle is where melee should be without the debuff
  • Bigger red circle is where ranged/healers should run when they have the debuff
  • Yellow circle is Countdown gather point
  • 1 and 2 are ranged/healer groups


Notes:

  • Collapse in the yellow circle for countdown, whether you have the crystal debuff or not.
  • Person who is taking crystals have to make sure they are the closest non-tank to the boss - melee should stand at max range and the crystal soaker should be a few yards inside his hitbox.
  • Melee with debuff should be standing at 3 o'clock, and shift down as needed if multiple melee have the debuff. Should be plenty of room for 2-3 melee if everyone's at max range.
  • Crystal soaker should be at 6 o'clock, next person in line at 7 o'clock. Soaker shifts to 4 o'clock when he has enough stacks for the handoff (and goes to the red circle they belong to), next person in line slides down into 6 o'clock.
  • Ranged/healers with debuff make sure you're in the big red circle (but don't touch each other), no reason for you to come any closer until the debuff wears off. When it wears off join groups 1 or 2. - debuff should be gone long before it's your turn to take the crystal again.



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Posted 21 October 2011 - 07:59 PM

Sorry Sobe, here come's another useless post - mostly because I feel compelled to at least post here once.

Sup Oshi?

Oh quick question, if you guys were to have him do disc and shadow... I feel like he'd get more mileage out of gear as holy/shadow. The itemizations for disc and shadow are regretfully completely different atm =/ (Hmm, guess this post wasn't completely useless...)
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:11 PM

View PostHecatus, on 21 October 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

Oh quick question, if you guys were to have him do disc and shadow... I feel like he'd get more mileage out of gear as holy/shadow. The itemizations for disc and shadow are regretfully completely different atm =/ (Hmm, guess this post wasn't completely useless...)


Utility to the raid > gearing options. (Hmm, guess it was useless after all)

Oh and apparently Gunther hates your guts Oshibo, so unless some resolution is made we're not getting any further.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:56 PM

I didn't know there was anything going on between Gunther and myself. Other than random playful pokes on the forum and him logging over to alliance to ask questions about spriest, we haven't spoken really. I don't remember anything happening from the '09 days. If he hates me I don't think there's anything I can do about it.

Now, to answer the other stuff. I don't know the intricacies of Baleroc 10 man so I don't have any disputes as far as your cd usage is concerned. I WILL say that having ranged with healers isn't a good thing. Maybe the diagram is denoting 1 as healers and 2 as ranged but it isn't clear. I just know that unless you get amazing RNG you can't kill it with your 90 stack healer having to move an inch. Of course, I only healed this when the only way to win at all was with awesome rng + awesome play.

Everything with the strat seems to check out. I'm confident that you know more about the timing and cds than I do. However, I don't know how you're doing it with healers.

Would you mind doing a quick right up with your healer setup? Are you 2/3 healing? Which healer class do you plan on having collect stacks first? Do you have any contingency plans if the first strike is a decimation blade instead of inferno blade?

With our strat (as with most other guilds) things revolved around the disc priest/s. Disc priest is fastest with collecting stacks. PW:S gives both a stack and Borrowed Time effect. Penance doesn't remove the Borrowed Time buff as it's a channeled spell so you get a free hasted penance (3 stacks per penance) as well as another hasted Flash Heal. Greater Heal yields more healing per mana with Borrowed Time activated but the important thing here is gathering stacks. Our paladins were healing the tanks until the first decimation blade. I don't know how much they've changed the encounter by now, but inferno blades usually came first which allowed the disc priests to get 50-65 stacks easily. One priest would always be doing more HPS (like 30-60k hps) because they would get to PW:S the tank and do the Borrowed Time goodness.

By the end of the encounter the paladins were caught up enough to handle decimation blades as well. We would have our 5th (or in your case 3rd) healer on the torments the entire time. They never touched the tanks and they spammed incredibly hard. You need to make sure you have someone that really knows the limits of their class and how to manage their mana. A shaman was working extremely well for us because their mana is rather durable without casting Chain Heals. Unfortunately, Baleroc offers no room to make use of Telluric Currents.

Most input I would be giving will pertain to healing and positioning. I've learned all of the healing classes by this point by asking questions and researching them. I needed to in order to keep up with our strats in Summit after Yoko quit. There's also the issue of assimilating myself to 10 man compositions and strategies but that's not something that would take long. Right now i'm really geared toward 25 man healing. I don't have any 10 man experience outside of killing H Al'Akir. Most people tell me that healing 10 man is largely different. Not any less/more difficult but different. You don't quite get the same class versatility so you really have to know your stuff.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:06 PM

View PostPuddincup, on 21 October 2011 - 08:56 PM, said:

I didn't know there was anything going on between Gunther and myself. Other than random playful pokes on the forum and him logging over to alliance to ask questions about spriest, we haven't spoken really. I don't remember anything happened from the '09 days. If he hates me I don't think there's anything I can do about it.


Apparently you were a jerk when he was asking questions, I'll let him talk about it since I'm not sure exactly what happened.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:17 PM

Maybe I was a jerk. I didn't mean to be. I was rather dismissive because I was raiding. I told him that I wasn't currently playing spriest so I wasn't a good source of information. I knew how to play it, but you're always better off asking someone that knows every current trick in the book. I referred him to our spriest Rayrife and howtopriest.com

Edit- I edited my response to your Baleroc stuff in that other post. Don't want you to miss it.

P.S. sup Hec

Hec, gearing isn't an issue in 10 man as a priest. Even if there's a full time spriest in the group. The spirit conversion helps a lot. I can REALLY go into disc itemization but i'll spare you... unless you do want to go over it. Disc doesn't use haste/spirit gear. However, haste/spirit reforged to spirit/mastery>haste or spirit/crit>haste is sometimes BiS. There isn't much gear for a holy priest in FL. Disc is lucky enough to be versatile about it. You have multiple playstyle with multiple stat setups. I've tried them all myself because the Firelands meta wasn't clear and there is no great and holy disc priest think-tank. A few of the top disc priests were trying different things. Most people emulated Tidus from QTs but they can't do that anymore. I tried master, crit and haste. I've tinkered with how much mp5 is necessary (again, something that I really dig into to), etc etc.

It turned out that I was able to get top 10 WoL parses with all of these setups. Different setups called for different spell priorities but certain setups were favorable with certain encounters. There's the age-old argument that HPS doesn't matter. That's absolutely true as long as all over your healers are pulling their weight equally, which doesn't happen in any guild. Disc priest has a strange relationship with other healers because absorbs let them get into the cookie jar first, and the other healers are able to manage their own mana around how much the disc priest is absorbing.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:41 PM

If it has any bearing on my applications approval, I plan on changing my name back to Oshibo. Actually, I think that's taken. So is Puddingcup. Sigh.
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