[Shammypwnjr]

Discuss your talents and tell us how long you have been this particular spec:
My current talents are 10/31/0 enhancement. I have always been enhancement mainspec since BC when the character was first created. I more recently speced into shamaninstic rage just for suvivability factor with baleroc ect. I felt before that it was really unneeded in the spec i also switched to 3 in acurity and 2 in concussion it was switched for a long time however have found that both specs will equate into roughly the same dps sub 20 dps give or take.

Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
Both

Do you have an authenticator?
Yes;mobile

Typical Weekly Playtime:
15hours or so; when i apply to any guild i make sure i am able to make all raid times

Time Zone:
Pst

Previous Guilds:
Drenden: Cataclysm: Fallen; Wrath:Fallen, Veterans of Valor, one knight stand, Brand New day
Koralistraza:Wrath: Wrecked(on my deathknight during this time, Agôny was the name and is now ânguish on drenden)
Gurubashi: Bc : The Torn Chapter( raided on my holy paladin which i deleted in wrath)

Previous Raiding Experience:
BC: Kara ZA SSC TK BT all cleared
Wrath:All content cleared Heroic modes in ulduar pre toc, Heroic toc, Heroic icc
Cata: 12/12 teir 11 2/7 FL

Why are you applying to us:
I decided to go horde again just because i got shafted hard by the current officers in fallen. I chose horde also for the reason that my best raiding experience was when i did raid horde with Wrecked in ulduar. I feel this guild is a good fit and progression thus far is equal to where my current/ex guild is as well

Link us your Armory:
http://us.battle.net...mmypwnjr/simple

Screenshot of your UI, preferably in a raid environment:
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World of Logs Report:
Not available at this time due to the reason of why im leaving my guild stated above

Do you know anyone in guild? If so please list your pals.
No i dont know anyone in your guild

Tell us a bit about yourself:
I am a raider i always have been. Im good at what i do and can adapt and learn different ways of playing any spec/class combination i need wether i like it or not i can do it. I am very dedicated in all aspectd of raiding and theroycraft my class and current content to make sure i play my best i simulationcraft and rawr my class as well so that my stats/items and enchants are as best as possible.

[Daloc]

World of logs:
http://www.worldoflo...nz42t56r60t1vm/
http://www.worldoflo...bjeyx3tz9b2k5m/

[Shammypwnjr]

Daloc, on 22 July 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

World of logs:
http://www.worldoflo...nz42t56r60t1vm/
http://www.worldoflo...bjeyx3tz9b2k5m/

I didnt use those two sets of logs for two reasons. 1. I had to leave raid early due to a family emergency so i didnt participate in any of the shannox attempts to counter balance the ryolith numbers. Secondly, this was the first week of firelands and because we started on ryolith we never broke 4 stacks of the obsidian armor before we wiped. so plz keep that in mind as you look at those numbers they are pretty inaccurate. I was trying to fit in a fresh log of my own before i submitted the app however the client continued to crash me. If it is really a question of numbers i will pug something and provide you with a fresh log.

[Sobeyet]

Shammypwnjr, on 22 July 2011 - 12:13 AM, said:

I didnt use those two sets of logs for two reasons. 1. I had to leave raid early due to a family emergency so i didnt participate in any of the shannox attempts to counter balance the ryolith numbers. Secondly, this was the first week of firelands and because we started on ryolith we never broke 4 stacks of the obsidian armor before we wiped. so plz keep that in mind as you look at those numbers they are pretty inaccurate. I was trying to fit in a fresh log of my own before i submitted the app however the client continued to crash me. If it is really a question of numbers i will pug something and provide you with a fresh log.

We review logs within the context that's available - your class, raid makeup, any specific job you may be doing, relative skill of other players, experience with the encounter at the time, etc. Obviously if you're not there for attempts your total damage done is going to go down (largely a useless and misleading statistic anyway) and Rhyolith is going to bring down the raw DPS numbers (another horrible stat) of anyone that's whacking at his cankles. A raid log will always be better than something from a 5-man (or nothing at all). Even if you're playing like absolute crap, if you can identify what went wrong and how to resolve it that shows me a lot more than you lusting down a random heroic boss with a 15% luck of the draw buff. For example, I'd be more concerned about you eating more lava flows than anyone else: http://www.worldoflo...sses&boss=52558

It's late so I'm not going to do a full critique atm (it'll take me 2 hours to type it out as it is); I generally prefer to let some people chip in first before I drop the hammer anyway.

[Shammypwnjr]

Sobeyet, on 22 July 2011 - 12:28 AM, said:

Shammypwnjr, on 22 July 2011 - 12:13 AM, said:

I didnt use those two sets of logs for two reasons. 1. I had to leave raid early due to a family emergency so i didnt participate in any of the shannox attempts to counter balance the ryolith numbers. Secondly, this was the first week of firelands and because we started on ryolith we never broke 4 stacks of the obsidian armor before we wiped. so plz keep that in mind as you look at those numbers they are pretty inaccurate. I was trying to fit in a fresh log of my own before i submitted the app however the client continued to crash me. If it is really a question of numbers i will pug something and provide you with a fresh log.

We review logs within the context that's available - your class, raid makeup, any specific job you may be doing, relative skill of other players, experience with the encounter at the time, etc. Obviously if you're not there for attempts your total damage done is going to go down (largely a useless and misleading statistic anyway) and Rhyolith is going to bring down the raw DPS numbers (another horrible stat) of anyone that's whacking at his cankles. A raid log will always be better than something from a 5-man (or nothing at all). Even if you're playing like absolute crap, if you can identify what went wrong and how to resolve it that shows me a lot more than you lusting down a random heroic boss with a 15% luck of the draw buff. For example, I'd be more concerned about you eating more lava flows than anyone else: http://www.worldoflo...sses&boss=52558

It's late so I'm not going to do a full critique atm (it'll take me 2 hours to type it out as it is); I generally prefer to let some people chip in first before I drop the hammer anyway.

Noted concern. However, More recently i have corrected the "lava flows" problem and since have come to avoide it. Critique when you have time i can explian and tell you anything you want to know. I know my class very well and as such will push any and all points to the furthest level needed.

[Wrathblood]

Tell me a little about your thoughts on basic shaman mechanics. For example, what rotation/priority you use when hitting abilities? What stats are you consciously stacking, and how do you rank order them? And a curveball, caster weapons have kinda come and gone in terms of usefulness for enhance shammies. Are they useful now, and would using one (or two) change any of the points you've made?

[Kbore]

Is he applying for a Healing spot or DPS? Because the only data I got on him from the link is a Shannox healing log. The Lord R. I see him dps'n feet in the 1-2min long attempts. If both then the app should be focused on both fronts. If it is a dps spot being applied for then I'd like to see some more logs to support that spec from anything, doesn't have to be firelands. Being stuck on leg duty sucks , and isn't the best demonstration on what kind of numbers your able to produce. Most attempts he was 90 % adv. active up time which is a good sign. ( since I keep sending us clicker apps >< )

[Shammypwnjr]

Wrathblood, on 22 July 2011 - 02:04 PM, said:

Tell me a little about your thoughts on basic shaman mechanics. For example, what rotation/priority you use when hitting abilities? What stats are you consciously stacking, and how do you rank order them? And a curveball, caster weapons have kinda come and gone in terms of usefulness for enhance shammies. Are they useful now, and would using one (or two) change any of the points you've made?

For shamans I do feel totems are a little out dated and a clunky mechanic that will need to be revamped in the future. As far as priority lava lash is our nuke and needs to be on cooldown all the time regardless of whether or not searing flames is stacked to five on the target, after that is unleash weapons and flameshock then lightning boltx5 maelstrom then stormstrike then earthshock. Keep in mind as well that while doing this searing totem must never expire and will take highest priority in any circumstance. I do use shock and awe to help manage all this and optimize priorities. As far as stat weight goes (using secondary stats only) hit>expertise>mastery>spell hit>crit> haste. Unfortunatly after cataclysm hit the class changes caused haste to be seriously lack luster for enhancement. Part of this reason also is because unleashed wind buff gives us all the extra haste we need. Mastery is our most powerful stat outside of hit and 17-18 mastery is where you want to sit at for now this should get up to 18-19 in heroic FL gear but more then that and you are probably missing some other stat somewhere. Now with the caster weapon main hand, (You will never use two because caster weapons are main hand only)In endgame firlands gear e.g. 4 piece teir 12 caster main hand will sim ~5000 dps higher then agi. The most significant reason for this is because when you wear four piece t-12 in the caster set up you use Lava burst in your rotation with unleashed flame instead of flameshock and this allows you to take advantage of the full teir set bonus. I will once i reach my four set use the caster set up because of the big gap in dps increase.

[Sobeyet]

Kbore, on 22 July 2011 - 02:32 PM, said:

Because the only data I got on him from the link is a Shannox healing log.

And apparently we need to teach you how to use WoL too.

Shammypwnjr, on 22 July 2011 - 02:33 PM, said:

For shamans

General responses seem okay so far; I'll do a detailed review sometime today. Two comments:

• There's some uncertainty with drama / attitude / etc. and your fall-out with Fallen. We're going to do our due diligence to make sure you're a good fit personality wise, but don't feel the need to act a certain way; be yourself and if it works out it works out. I tell this to all the realm/faction transfer apps, but we don't want you to waste your money and everyone's time if we're not going to be a good fit, so you'll be under a bit more scrutiny than a typical non-transfer app.
• Shock and Awe is a neat mod, but I do worry that a lot of people end up using it as a crutch and just stare at it to tell them what button to hit next. Ideally you already have a good feeling for what's coming up and use it as a tool to supplement your intuition.

[Shammypwnjr]

To clarify what happened with fallen. They wanted me to raid lead their second 10 man because of my previous raid experience and raw knowlege of theroycrafting fights. I reluctently accepted the position and was stuck in a spot where all of the team members involved except for myself and two other individuals were below par and refused to take it upon themselves to get better. They also didnt want to have a serious raid envoirment and because of this and after 3 weeks of no improvement i told the officers i was relinquishing raid leading and the raid team that they cannot compete in a raid envoirment. I also offered advice to have them move to a single 10 man rotation setup to switch the raiders out. I Was told by the gm that my intensity in pushing content made other raiders unhappy and from there i made the decision to not participate in their 10 man core and find a more sutible guild.

[Wrathblood]

Had some good chats with him. He's kinda growing on me.

[Kbore]

I saw the damage done on the Shannox kill , Shammypwnjr wasn't even in that log so I was seeing shit or something... anyhow I'm sure from the attempts I did see his active up times were 90% and above. SO I kinda know

[Wrathblood]

Need to see a good damage log as well. BH or something.

[Shammypwnjr]

http://www.worldoflo...dqwqolgf9sb0tt/

There is a pug bot run killed everything except chogall because ppl left

[Guinthel]

i think your name is dumb


just say'n

[Sobeyet]

Gear:

• Under spell hit cap, both EnhSim and Simulationcraft have hit beating out mastery; I'd sacrifice a little mastery to get to cap. You're going to lose even more hit losing the draenei racial anyway, might as well adjust for it
• If you decide to go orc remember to adjust your expertise

Spec/Glyphs:

• Looks to be okay, glyph of stoneclaw can be useful for damage reduction in certain situations

UI:

• Wouldn't have expected you to be a clicker. Puts a whole damper on things really. Ghost wolf is way out there, not even on your main bars. No shamanistic rage either.
• Don't see any kind of notification to keep track of landslide procs, I'd use it to try and line up spirit wolf.
• Kbore asked me how I can tell people are clickers - hint: If you look at their bar and see 8, 9, 0, -, =, chances are they're not reaching for it with their left hand. That equal sign is a bitch, if I stretch out my hand I can reach it with my thumb, but I'm pretty sure I could come up with a more convenient button. Also, tool-tips. Like in the picture you can see that ShockAndAwe wants him to push Lava Lash next, so he's hovering over it with his mouse about to click it and the tool-tip is showing on the right side of the screen. For shame. That's the main reason I started asking for screenshots of people's UIs actually. I don't care if it's pretty or not, just want to see some decent bindings and timers.

Halfus:

• Didn't cheat by skimping on the adds which is good
• Melee swings and windfury are a higher percentage than I'd like, probably losing globals by clicking
• Forgot to keep lightning shield up (30.8% uptime)
• Flame shock uptime should be better (76.3%), seems like you're not getting enough unleash flames in there
• LBs are a bit low too, seeing some dead globals between your 5th stack of maelstrom weapon and LB (not counting globals used for storm strike and lava lash), again probably losing time from clicking
• Only popped your trinket once, could have done it twice, popped it before bloodlust, should have done it after
• Ditto for spirit wolves
• Didn't cast shamanistic rage before Halfus roars

V&T:

• Really high on fabulous flames, took more damage than anyone from them. Not sure what strat you were using, but you shouldn't really get hit by them in melee
• Got sucked into twilight zone (lol), also took 24 seconds to get out? Seems like a long time
• Melee swings and windfury are too high again
• Had lightning shield up this time
• Flame shock uptime got better, stormstrike got worse
• Used trinket and spirit wolves max times
• Didn't cast shamanistic rage for blackouts or when you got sucked into twilight zone
• Didn't bloodlust?

Council:

• Phase 2 sucks for melee in general, but the dramatic drop in DPS is a bit worrisome
• Didn't ghost wolf while running around, could have saved the dead time
• Interrupted the second rising flames, DK beat you to the first one. Didn't look like you were on Terrastra much (not sure why you'd put melee on Arion, but shrug) but I would've liked to see a harden skin interrupt
• Pulled aggro on transition to phase 3, took 186k in melee swing damage, didn't wind shear or pop shamanistic rage (or stop attacking), bad show of judgment
• Took a lot of liquid ice damage as well, seems like you were content to pull aggro AND not pull him out of the crap on the ground
• Seems like you were flame shocking on the move which is good, melee swings still too high
• 1 feral spirit, 2 trinket pops in a 6:34 fight, not good

Cho'gall attempts:

• Ate one corrupting crash, not bad
• Rotation was slightly better, melee still too high again, but you were just sitting on Cho'gall the whole time, so it might as well have been a target dummy.
• Was pretty lucky with worshipping - picked 6th most in the raid - didn't interrupt anyone else (psychic scream didn't cover em all).

Rhyolith:

• Seems like you were on right leg duty for the most part
• Rotation really went to shit, top 3 attacks are Melee, Windfury attack, Flametongue attack. Lava lash plummeted.
• Lightning shield uptime dropped again
• Magma flow damage high as previously mentioned
• Not sure what trinket you were using before Ricket's, but if it was on-use I don't see it.
• Feral spirit could have been used more
• Again no shamanistic rage.

Recap:

• Clicker, probably losing a couple of thousand DPS compared to Asian-Robot-player.
• Doesn't seem like you cope very well with movement. I expect all melee to drop off a little bit, but it seems to be more than reasonable. Part of the reason is because you don't use the tools you have (like ghost wolf) as much as you could.
• Doesn't seem like you cope very well with new encounters. Same as above, everyone needs a few attempts to get the hang of things, but the fact that your rotation falls apart is a problem.
• Clicking exacerbates both issues, and if I had to guess I'd say you rely too much on ShockAndAwe as well. For example, if you're looking at the ShockAndAwe icon, then you look for where the icon is on your bars, and move your mouse there, you really have to divert a lot of attention from what's going on on the screen. If there's a lot of crap going on that you haven't seen before, your brain just turns to mush trying to do too much. Ideally you could disable ShockAndAwe, hide your bars, and just go through your rotation without even looking. If you can do that without thinking about it, then all your attention can be focused on the mechanics of your encounter, not the mechanics of your rotation. It's tougher for enhancement shaman than some classes (though in general Blizz has trended away from set rotation), but it's all about practice and muscle memory. If you don't use keybindings, you're just lopping off 10% of your potential.
• Defensive CD usage is nonexistent. Not even on your bars. 30% damage reduction for 15 seconds every 60 seconds? God damn that's OP. The mana is just icing on the cake. Every person in a raid has to take some responsibility for their survival, especially when hard modes come into play. And it's not just about surviving a big hit, it's about mitigating as much damage as possible to save globals and mana.

[Shammypwnjr]

Had Hurricane before rickets. Which addons would you suggest for landside monitoring, Im willing to adjust to keybinds ect, just dont prefer it. I see the shamanistic rage issue first raid since i did spec back into it. ill macro wolves and trinket when i get on so i can use on cooldown. As far as my name goes, I personally think its stupid too just never felt id change it unless i faction changed, Most likely will change it to Râge if i am accepted. And on council the pug was very unorganized they never had me on a chosen target out of p2 so they were like dps this now oh wait now that ect,was very irratating.

[Sobeyet]

Shammypwnjr, on 23 July 2011 - 01:23 PM, said:

Which addons would you suggest for landside monitoring, Im willing to adjust to keybinds ect, just dont prefer it.

Couple of different options depending on what you prefer (timer, big flashing icon, etc.). If you're going to spend time theorycrafting and want to get the most out of your toon, you should use keybinds; you're always going to be slower clicking and you're going to have a hard time moving and dpsing at the same time (the distance you have to move your mouse changes in relation to where your cursor is, keys are always in the same spot). It's kind of like adjusting the tire pressure in your car to be perfect then driving around with 3 wheels.

Here's a previous post about my UI/Keybinds, has a couple of addons you could use for landslide. If you get a trinket with a proc + internal CD (Matrix Restabilizer, Hungerer, etc.) your best option is probably NeedToKnow.

Sobeyet, on 19 April 2011 - 12:36 AM, said:

As promised, a UI/Keybinding review. I use a standard wireless 5-button mouse, nothing special. Mouse Button (MB) 3 is the middle button, MB 4 is the shoulder button on the left, MB 5 the right.

I use 44 keybindings, they're roughly the same across the different specs but here's the one I use for BM:

1 - Hunter's Mark
2 - Kill Command
3 - Cobra Shot
4 - Arcane Shot
5 - Multi Shot
6 - Bestial Wrath macro
Shift-1 - Focus Fire
Shift-2 - Kill Shot
Shift-3 - Serpent Sting
Shift-4 - Concussive Shot
Shift-5 - Tranq Shot
Shift-6 - Scatter Shot
Alt-1 - Distracting Shot
Alt-2 - Agi Potion
Alt-3 - Healthstone
Alt-4 - Health Pot
Alt-5 - Bandage
Alt-6 - Intimidation
A - Misdirect
S - Raptor Strike
D - Deterrence
Shift-A - Rapid Fire Macro
Shift-S - Blood Fury
Shift-D - Fervor
F1 - Aspect of the Hawk / Fox toggle
F2 - AotH / Cheetah toggle
F3 - AotH / Pack toggle
F4 - Deterrence / Blessing of Protection cancelaura macro
F5 - Master's Call
F6 - Mend Pet
MB 3 - Trap Launcher
MB 4 - Feign Death
MB 5 - Disengage
Shift-MB 2 - Snake Trap
Shift-MB 3 - Freezing Trap
Shift-MB 4 - Explosive Trap
Shift-MB 5 - Ice Trap
Alt-MB 1 - Call primary pet
Alt-MB 2 - Call secondary pet
Alt-MB 3 - Pet Move To
Alt-MB 4 - Dismiss Pet
Alt-MB 5 - Pet special ability (heal, burrow, shell shield, etc.)
Alt-Mousewheel Up - Pet Attack
Alt-Mousewheel Down - Pet Passive

I use Q / W / E to move (strafe left, forward, strafe right), no backpedal button.

Keybindings are very subjective and you have to find a set that works for you, but there are 3 things I'd very much recommend:

• Keep emergency buttons as close to your default finger position as possible - Deterrence is D, Feign Death is MB4, etc.
• Bind movement/aoe targeting buttons to your mouse - Disengage is the big one for hunters. I have it bound to MB5, so I can mouse turn in an instant and Disengage in one fluid motion with one hand. Great for Al'akir.
• Bind traps to your mouse - Since trap launcher is a bit clunky and you end up pushing 2 buttons for each trap, having it bound to your mouse lets you do it as quickly as possible and place the targeting reticule where it needs to go. Great for Cho'gall.

What my UI looks like:

• Shadowed Unit Frames with Player, Target, Pet, Focus, and Target of Target (to the right of Target)
• Range Display gives me the distance to target (Between Player and Target frames)
• Tidy Plates for nameplates, not as essential on a non-tank character
• Need to Know for CDs - as BM I have Bestial Wrath, Rapid Fire, Call of the WIld (ferocity pet), Blood Fury (orc racial), X-Ray Targeting (bow proc), and Twisted (trinket proc)
• Grid on the lower right hand side for raid frames (as a healer I'd keep it more central)
• Weak Auras for HUD notifications:
  • The green lines to the left and right of my character shows Serpent Sting duration (only applied by me), and fade down as the timer runs out
  • Stacks below my character shows Frenzy Effect stacks on my pet, if it's at 5 I should pop Focus Fire (provided Bestial Wrath isn't coming off CD)
  • Counter above my character shows CD left on Kill Command
  • Red Cross to the left of green lines shows Mend Pet duration, fades down similar to Serpent Sting
• Satrina Buff Frames for standard buffs

[Wrathblood]

This is a little off-topic, but Sobie what macros do you use for launcher + trap? I've tried a few but can't get any to work properly and it aggravates me.

[Sobeyet]

Wrathblood, on 23 July 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

This is a little off-topic, but Sobie what macros do you use for launcher + trap? I've tried a few but can't get any to work properly and it aggravates me.

You mean like pushing a button once to have launcher + explosive trap? Wasn't possible last time I checked, Blizz didn't do such a good job of implementing it; it's pretty clunky. All my traps are bound to my mouse (and launcher is middle button) so I end up hitting two buttons for each trap. Kind of annoying when I have to trap like 6 times in a row (Cho'gall, blargh).