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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:10 PM

Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
Yes I have vent and a working mic, atleast I think its working.

Do you have an authenticator?
Yes I do have an authenticator and the core hound pup to prove it. lol

Typical Weekly Playtime:
Alot right now, Umm most evenings and late night except when I have something important to do, It will change when i get to work again... still on alot regardless.

Time Zone:
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Previous Guilds:
Kaos Rising(2008) Asylum(2008/2009) Fail(2009) Ave & Dynasty(2010) Raids Naked(it was kinda overtaken) Schnozzberries(2011)

Previous Raiding Experience:
I did Kara, Gruul's, mag's, Hyjal in bc. Naxx, OS(1d, 2d, 3d), Eoe, Ulduar, Toc10, ICC10(although I never killed LK)and I havent raided anything in Cata yet except bh. (this was on multiple toons remember, mostly the Wrath content)

Why are you applying to us:
Looking to atleast get into the Cata raids. 10man (my computer will die if I try 25man) I like having a social guild with many people on which my current one is kinda lacking.. this game is meant to play with lots of people, thats the fun of it) and Heresiarch is spoken highly of.


Link us your Armory:
Rukkus 85 arcane(currently)Mage
Rukkuspally 85 prot Paladin
Notrukkus 85 survival Hunter
Ruktotem 85 Ele Shaman
Droodz 85 balance Druid
Rukky 85 frost/blood DK
Shankahoe 85 combat rogue

Those 7 toons are geared enough to attemp raids. Rimz, Ruklock (85s) and my Gobby (72 prot warrior) are not lol.

Screenshot of your UI, preferably in a raid environment:
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Its outta raid, but I do have Dbm, recount, omen, and a few other addons. Not a huge refixed UI kinda guy.

World of Logs Report:
Its been a while since I've been in a raid. So its currently unavailable for any toons I have.

Do you know anyone in guild? If so please list your pals.
I dont know who is all in there, but Kbore was the one who suggested I apply. I've known Kbore since bc. used to raids Kara and all that with him and was in Asylum with him before I moved to FAIL to raid Wrath stuff. I also know and used to raid with Aif, Liil, Hecatus... if they r still in there that is.

Tell us a bit about yourself:
Ummm I'm Rukkus, I've been going by this allias, username, character name for about 16 years now actualy. (gotta love the internets) Im 28, from Pennsylvania, I have 2 daughters. I've been playing wow since January of 2008 Spazr from Kitten soup actually got me playing, I used to work with him. Not really what else to say except I think Im a good person, get along with *most* people lol And I hate dailies, they make me sad.

Thanks guys.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 10:25 AM

Can you go into some detail about your spec and the play style of arcane.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 10:57 AM

View PostDeceax, on 21 July 2011 - 10:25 AM, said:

Can you go into some detail about your spec and the play style of arcane.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:34 AM

View PostGuinthel, on 21 July 2011 - 10:57 AM, said:

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Shit, I think I found a class I can play with a broken shoulder.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 12:20 PM

View PostSobeyet, on 21 July 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

View PostGuinthel, on 21 July 2011 - 10:57 AM, said:

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Shit, I think I found a class I can play with a broken shoulder.


lol, too funny. About Rukkus I've know this guy since the BD days. Raided with him then and some during Wrath. Good guy, can play and has raided with progression guilds in the past.
Thought I'd tell him to give us a try.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:52 PM

View PostKbore, on 21 July 2011 - 12:20 PM, said:

View PostSobeyet, on 21 July 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

View PostGuinthel, on 21 July 2011 - 10:57 AM, said:

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Shit, I think I found a class I can play with a broken shoulder.


lol, too funny. About Rukkus I've know this guy since the BD days. Raided with him then and some during Wrath. Good guy, can play and has raided with progression guilds in the past.
Thought I'd tell him to give us a try.


And its more like CDs 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, CD, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2 lol :P

Yea, it is kinda an easy spec and rotation to do but I have watched idiots run outta mana, peak and then drop because they run outta mana. but basically the spec is all about CDs and mana conservation because the more mana u have the more damage ur spells do. So its 4 arcane blast, arcane missle(to drop off debuff/if they r proc'd), and arcane barage an flame orb when its up or ur on the run. but then there is a ton of CDs to use too focus magic for a party/raid member, arcane power, mirror image, and of course as an arcane mage everytime u use ur mana gem or absorb damage with ur mana shield u gain buffs which help with the damage/dps. Mastery is the best stat (besides intel/hit of course) for arcane mages at the moment, Im sitting at like 18.25% currently.

So yea, I understand all this but am not the best at explaining it, it seems like rambling from my end haha. I can also play frost and fire very well, have played them and raided with both in the past. Kbore actually convinced me to try arcane because of the numbers it was putting out.

I hope that helps with what you are asking.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 09:29 PM

U need to pimp ur UI
rukkus i met him when i was a pugwhore back in wrath he was decent but always gettin carried on his ungeared toons
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 09:33 PM

View PostEfebo, on 21 July 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

U need to pimp ur UI
rukkus i met him when i was a pugwhore back in wrath he was decent but always gettin carried on his ungeared toons


feeb's , don't even go there on alts being carried man. I watched your ass get carried on some alts too mate. It was 90% of Drenden when people were making alts and running them through ICC.. Isn't a very good case.

I tend to judge people on there current skill lvl not something based on the face roll times of pull and aoe everything that was Wrath.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 09:39 PM

Efebo gets carried on his main.

View PostKbore, on 21 July 2011 - 09:33 PM, said:

I tend to judge people on there current skill lvl not something based on the face roll times of pull and aoe everything that was Wrath.


One comment on that, make sure you're not letting your friendship with apps interfere with your evaluation of their play. Vouching for someone's personality is definitely useful, letting your relationship color your opinion on their knowledge/ability is not (like that hunter app, seems like there was some hyperbole there). For me the better I know someone the more comfortable I feel with being brutally honest.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 10:30 PM

View PostKbore, on 21 July 2011 - 09:33 PM, said:

View PostEfebo, on 21 July 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

U need to pimp ur UI
rukkus i met him when i was a pugwhore back in wrath he was decent but always gettin carried on his ungeared toons


feeb's , don't even go there on alts being carried man. I watched your ass get carried on some alts too mate. It was 90% of Drenden when people were making alts and running them through ICC.. Isn't a very good case.

I tend to judge people on there current skill lvl not something based on the face roll times of pull and aoe everything that was Wrath.

lol i was gettin carried when i played my druid :( since i started from scartch. jeez i didnt say he was a bad player
he was a Decent player but always wanted to bring his hunter.
bringin and awanting to bring is different. but yeah any toon he was bringing did a decent job
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:16 PM

Was hoping Decocks would get off his lazy ass and do a critique, but I'll do one:

Glyphs:

  • Explain your choice of ABarr over AM
  • Explain your choice of not using glyph of Arcane Power

Gear:

  • Helm: No reforge (Hint: Crit)
  • Neck: No reforge
  • Shoulders: Level 80 enchant, haven't started the Therazane quest line, no reforge
  • Cloak: No reforge
  • Chest: Wrong reforge
  • Bracers: Wrong enchant on 378 bracers
  • Gloves: Should be 65 mastery, maelstroms aren't that expensive any more. No reforge
  • Ring 1: Shouldn't have a reforge if you reforged your other gear correctly
  • Ring 2: Wrong reforge

Looks like about 400-600 lost DPS from sub-optimal glyphing/gearing depending on which sim you use. The setup I had made you 2 points over hit cap, depending on your next upgrade I'd try to convert the hit from Stump to mastery if at all possible.

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  • Don't see any macros or timers for CDs, mages are probably the worst class to have inefficient CD stacking. Snowballs into lost globals as well.
  • Can't really critique rotation / CD usage / ability to dodge fire without a log (negative for the app in and of itself), but character setup and UI have me doubting that you've put a ton of thought into it.
  • Got some feedback from another player (perhaps more impartial than Kbore) with concerns about awareness. One opinion isn't going to sway me one way or the other, but every little detail gets added to the pastiche.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:34 PM

View PostEfebo, on 21 July 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

View PostKbore, on 21 July 2011 - 09:33 PM, said:

View PostEfebo, on 21 July 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

U need to pimp ur UI
rukkus i met him when i was a pugwhore back in wrath he was decent but always gettin carried on his ungeared toons


feeb's , don't even go there on alts being carried man. I watched your ass get carried on some alts too mate. It was 90% of Drenden when people were making alts and running them through ICC.. Isn't a very good case.

I tend to judge people on there current skill lvl not something based on the face roll times of pull and aoe everything that was Wrath.

lol i was gettin carried when i played my druid :( since i started from scartch. jeez i didnt say he was a bad player
he was a Decent player but always wanted to bring his hunter.
bringin and awanting to bring is different. but yeah any toon he was bringing did a decent job



And you always pulled your own weight in ICC too on that druid :). I think anyone who has a hunter would want to bring one back then being how op they were, even more now. Miss you btw feebs >..<
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:48 PM

View PostKbore, on 21 July 2011 - 11:34 PM, said:

I think anyone who has a hunter would want to bring one back then being how op they were, even more now.


OP might be a stretch; top 5 sure:

http://simulationcra.../Raid_T12H.html
http://raidbots.com/.../14/30/default/
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:31 AM

View PostKbore, on 21 July 2011 - 11:34 PM, said:

View PostEfebo, on 21 July 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

View PostKbore, on 21 July 2011 - 09:33 PM, said:

View PostEfebo, on 21 July 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

U need to pimp ur UI
rukkus i met him when i was a pugwhore back in wrath he was decent but always gettin carried on his ungeared toons


feeb's , don't even go there on alts being carried man. I watched your ass get carried on some alts too mate. It was 90% of Drenden when people were making alts and running them through ICC.. Isn't a very good case.

I tend to judge people on there current skill lvl not something based on the face roll times of pull and aoe everything that was Wrath.

lol i was gettin carried when i played my druid :( since i started from scartch. jeez i didnt say he was a bad player
he was a Decent player but always wanted to bring his hunter.
bringin and awanting to bring is different. but yeah any toon he was bringing did a decent job



And you always pulled your own weight in ICC too on that druid :). I think anyone who has a hunter would want to bring one back then being how op they were, even more now. Miss you btw feebs >..<



miss u too bro, and i thin Give rukkus a shot!
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:07 AM

View PostSobeyet, on 21 July 2011 - 11:16 PM, said:

Was hoping Decocks would get off his lazy ass and do a critique, but I'll do one:

Glyphs:

  • Explain your choice of ABarr over AM
  • Explain your choice of not using glyph of Arcane Power

Gear:

  • Helm: No reforge (Hint: Crit)
  • Neck: No reforge
  • Shoulders: Level 80 enchant, haven't started the Therazane quest line, no reforge
  • Cloak: No reforge
  • Chest: Wrong reforge
  • Bracers: Wrong enchant on 378 bracers
  • Gloves: Should be 65 mastery, maelstroms aren't that expensive any more. No reforge
  • Ring 1: Shouldn't have a reforge if you reforged your other gear correctly
  • Ring 2: Wrong reforge

Looks like about 400-600 lost DPS from sub-optimal glyphing/gearing depending on which sim you use. The setup I had made you 2 points over hit cap, depending on your next upgrade I'd try to convert the hit from Stump to mastery if at all possible.

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  • Don't see any macros or timers for CDs, mages are probably the worst class to have inefficient CD stacking. Snowballs into lost globals as well.
  • Can't really critique rotation / CD usage / ability to dodge fire without a log (negative for the app in and of itself), but character setup and UI have me doubting that you've put a ton of thought into it.
  • Got some feedback from another player (perhaps more impartial than Kbore) with concerns about awareness. One opinion isn't going to sway me one way or the other, but every little detail gets added to the pastiche.






Ok, switchd to arcane missle over barrage, only reason I had used barrage in the first place is cuz it gets rid of the debuff from arcane blast and also see that damn spell crit for 40-55k lots of times.

Umm the site I use noxxic.com says arcane power is preferrencial. so I use mana shield, poly(to get rid of dots when i cc) and evocation cuz with a 2min CD it hales me for a ton and can gimme mana back and heal me too.

I reforged and enchanted and fixed one gem i had wrong. Umm Im looking for someone with the bracer intel chant. i got mats, its a world drop and Im not paying 2k for it... but besides that I fixed it all, looks better.

STATS:
111.1k hp
82,279 mana

SP 6402
Haste 10.35%
Hit 17.02%
Crit 14.02%
Mastery 19.89


and yes I am a clicker, but thats how Im most comfortable playing, I move combination of my mouse for angels and my qwe asd for moving/strifing around. and use mouse to click, and spin camera angel. I could prolly macro a few buttons together but for the most part I think I do very good.

Thanks for the feedback so far. I so appreciate it no matter what happens.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:59 AM

View PostRukkus, on 22 July 2011 - 05:07 AM, said:

Ok, switchd to arcane missle over barrage, only reason I had used barrage in the first place is cuz it gets rid of the debuff from arcane blast and also see that damn spell crit for 40-55k lots of times.


I said explain your choice, not "okay I was told one thing, now I'm told another, so I'm changing it." Blindly following what people tell you doesn't do you any good, learn how the class works and make your own decision. And you're not supposed to stop using ABarr, it's still part of your rotation. Also, the BIG NUMBERZ you see flash on your screen should have little bearing on what buttons you're pushing (cast times + mana efficiency). P.S., an example of an acceptable answer would be "Well the simulations had me doing 80 more DPS with glyph of AM, but the progression encounter I've been working on was very movement intensive so I've been using ABarr more during movement in order to not lose GCDs."


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Umm the site I use noxxic.com says arcane power is preferrencial. so I use mana shield, poly(to get rid of dots when i cc) and evocation cuz with a 2min CD it hales me for a ton and can gimme mana back and heal me too.


How often do you polymorph during Firelands raid bosses? Also, looked at that site; it's not an absolute train wreck but they sure dumbed down a lot of the concepts. Get yourself familiar with:



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STATS:
111.1k hp
82,279 mana

SP 6402
Haste 10.35%
Hit 17.02%
Crit 14.02%
Mastery 19.89


Your raw stats don't really mean anything (well except hit anyway). What's more important is how your stats stack up relative to each other. It's fairly simple for arcane, but for classes like your SV hunter there are thresholds where certain stats overtake others (like haste vs. mastery). That's why oversimplified sites like that noxxic place shouldn't be used as a serious reference. Would it be good if everyone you queued for a random ZA with read that? Sure. Do I have higher expectations of knowledge from actual raiders? Yes.

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and yes I am a clicker, but thats how Im most comfortable playing, I move combination of my mouse for angels and my qwe asd for moving/strifing around. and use mouse to click, and spin camera angel. I could prolly macro a few buttons together but for the most part I think I do very good.
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Even if you're a "good" clicker, you're losing at least 100 ms on every click. For a GCD intensive class that's 6.67%. Arcane isn't very GCD intensive, but I'd be willing to wager that you're losing a lot more than 100 ms. (6.67% in your gear is 1,200-1,400 DPS by the way; something tells me you're not pulling a sustained 24k in your gear right now). From a practical standpoint, what happens if you have to turn your camera and push a button at the same time? Say you have to blink in the opposite direction to get out of fire. Keyboard turn + click blink? Horrible.

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Thanks for the feedback so far. I so appreciate it no matter what happens.
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Doesn't really seem like you've learned anything. You're just now regurgitating my bullshit instead of someone else's. My recommendation's going to be a no, doesn't seem like there's enough class knowledge there and you'd have to revamp your playstyle drastically to get the numbers you should be getting.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 10:16 AM

Glyph of Polymorph is pretty useless for raiding. Wondering why you went with incanter's absorption. How often during raid bosses are you popping mana shield for the damage bonus? When do you know it's time to evocate during the burn phase? After your burn phase can you explain your rotation during the conservation phase? Can you explain the benefit of using flame orb during your conservation phase?
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:03 PM

View PostDeceax, on 22 July 2011 - 10:16 AM, said:

Wondering why you went with incanter's absorption. How often during raid bosses are you popping mana shield for the damage bonus?


About 113 times for a 6/7 Heroic Firelands clear it looks like:

http://www.worldoflo...413/?enc=bosses

But hey, he was only averaging 37k DPS. Didn't use it at all when he went fire for Alysrazor and pulled 168k. I hear some people don't even mana shield for crackles on Nef *cough*.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:13 PM

Method. Pff. Not even the #1 guild in the world. Like they know how to play.

That having been said, sometimes they actually don't. It was a riot back in BC when Kungen from Ensidia (pre-Ensidia) had to go around asking people to find out what the block cap was w/o Shield Block.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:28 PM

View PostWrathblood, on 22 July 2011 - 02:13 PM, said:

Method. Pff. Not even the #1 guild in the world. Like they know how to play.

That having been said, sometimes they actually don't. It was a riot back in BC when Kungen from Ensidia (pre-Ensidia) had to go around asking people to find out what the block cap was w/o Shield Block.


Sure, I generally check out what Hyped is doing out of curiosity but Exodus is hiding their logs. So are most top guilds actually, Method is one of the few that aren't (they're still not showing Rag attempts, just their "farm" night). Not sure where Zuggie ranks in the grand scheme of things (obviously he doesn't suck), there's a chance other mages are out there pulling higher numbers but aren't public. Zuggie "only" has 2 top-25 parses for mages, Hyped has 22.

From what I remember Hyped wasn't a crazy math-head (like create-your-own-spreadsheet crazy, actually surprisingly few people in Exodus were), but he knew his stuff. He takes Incanter's Absorption too .
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