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#1 User is offline   Pyrelik 

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 01:18 PM

Discuss your talents and tell us how long you have been this particular spec:
I started playing in Oct 2008. I've ran Marksman since WotLK, I suppose my spec is cookie cutter cata MM (if you want to call it that), I can play any of the 3 hunter specs with no problems and am willing to adapt as need be per spec, I am most comfortable with MM however. Some of the things I do like for instance my 3 points in HvW I like the extra survivablity in cases when things go pear shaped and living hunters tend to do more dps than dead ones, I also try to keep my spec(s) applicable for anything I may or may not do on the spur of the moment.

Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
I have ventrilo as well as a working mic just quiet until i get to know people.

Do you have an authenticator?
Yes I do.

Typical Weekly Playtime:
As far as playtime goes I'm on any host of Alt characters I have on this realm quite alot, with the exception of my shaman who I have yet to transfer over I am easily reachable.

Time Zone:
I am on Central standard time gotta love the mid-west.

Previous Guilds:
I've been in several guilds over the course of my history on drenden some of those were, Fist of Fate for a time before they fell apart, Publicity, Gold Guilded left on bad terms (internal dissention) Raids Naked( same reason for leaving), Schnozzberries( current guild officer status atm).

Previous Raiding Experience: My raiding experience is primarily limited to WotLK I have recently done some pugs that semi succeeded such as BoT,

Why are you applying to us:
Main reason I'm applying is I've recently decided to return to raiding and I hear your in need of a ranged dps.

Armory link http://us.battle.net.../Pyrelik/simple

Screenshot of your UI, preferably in a raid environment:
I don't have a screen shout of my UI handy but I use ElvUI, recount, DBM, and assorted other addons as needed,

World of Logs Report:
I also do not have a world of logs reference

Do you know anyone in guild? If so please list your pals.
I know Kbore and he is the one who actually told me to apply. Others on server you may know are Spazr and Warcrywolves/Shuul are some others i run with on a normal basis.

Tell us a bit about yourself:
About me hmm. Not much to tell really I'm laid back like to joke around have fun and have a good time most of all. I'm open to constructive critiscm and actively attempt to better my self easy to get along with and 27 years old rather reserved about opinions until i know what people are like and such, anything else you'd like to know feel free to ask if i missed something your may have a question about. Hope you like what you see and thanks for taking a look.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 01:56 PM

I chatted with him a bit, and he seems like a nice guy. Also, I think he's going to take a stab at doing a little more polishing before finalizing the app.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:00 PM

View PostWrathblood, on 14 July 2011 - 01:56 PM, said:

he's going to take a stab at doing a little more polishing before finalizing the app.


He should, because right now it's leaning toward a no. I'd recommend looking at some of the apps that were accepted.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:33 PM

Just don't look at mine.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:58 PM

Still not great, but this is better. Also looks like you've gotten your gear into better shape. When the timing works out (I'm going to be a bit busier than normal until next Wed, but it'd be good to do something sooner than that), lets try to run something to get an idea for how you play.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 12:13 AM

I've know Pyrelik for about 6 plus month now. Given my experience with him in BG's and 5 man's, he has high situational awareness and tends to out live probably some of the worst scenarios I've seen in my ZA/ZG random Q's and fail BG group's we all come across from time to time. And not via FD but uses traps / stun kiting techniques that generally apply well to raid content. Sadly, due to Drenden pugs being basically non existent since Wrath. Raid experience for him has been limited to Kitten Soup alt runs or a fill in spot on there second raid team. Given that, he adapted quickly to the mechanics he only view via video and performed very well given those circumstances. The truth is there are a lot of undiscovered talent waiting to be molded and I see that in him, and he takes to constructive criticism well. From all the hours I've talked to him, I've learn through probing from my general knowledge of a hunter which is based form my 85. That he reads up on his classes and studies all he can about what's new and what he should be looking for in gear/ stat choices. The basic make up of a raid ready individual which is why I suggested he apply. And , to be honest he was reluctant to at first feeling his lack of current raid experience would basically get the door shut in his face ( so to speak ). I'm sure Sobes will go over his gear / log numbers ( if we can get some ) and give us his 2 cents.

I'll close with the short, trial by FIRE!
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 10:39 AM

A couple of red flags from only looking at the app. The first app looks like it was thrown together in a couple of minutes and not much effort was put forth. Not the biggest thing in the world, but not a great first impression.

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I've been in several guilds over the course of my history on drenden some of those were, Fist of Fate for a time before they fell apart, Publicity, Gold Guilded left on bad terms (internal dissention) Raids Naked( same reason for leaving), Schnozzberries( current guild officer status atm).

The fact that you left two guilds on bad terms makes me wonder if we might have drama issues. I don't know the whole story so to be fair it's quite possible that you were not at fault, but the fact that this happened in two separate guilds leads me to believe otherwise.

I'm kind of split down the middle on this one. I would like to get him in on a raid to get some logs and also a better view on his personality.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 03:29 PM

Pyre, let me know what some of your alts are named (or look for me. My characters are all named Wrath-something) for a heroic and ideally throw you into a BH or something and see how you do.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:28 PM

The guilds that where left on bad terms with were due to drama within the guild that had been building for months that finally came to a head. Reasons like ignorant disrespectful GM's, and a quite literal Coup De Tat by a trusted guild member in a another resulting in that the founders of the guild were removed or left willing to avoid even more drama. I'll explain more if need be but i find it difficult to not make it seem like gossip and romour-milling which is just no good for anyone.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:05 PM

Agree with Decocks on the concern over drama; even if a guild implodes through no fault of your own it's usually personal discretion on whether you leave on bad terms or not.

Even for a "trial by fire" there needs to be some glimmer of potential; our need for recruits should have no impact on our standards for performance.

On to some specifics of the app:

Spec/Glyphs:

  • Your spec isn't cookie cutter, you took Imp. SrS and glyphed it as well. I'd like to hear your rationale for this choice, backed up by numbers/theorycrafting in relation to other talent/glyph choices (not serpent sting hits for gud!)
  • You say you took HvW for survivability, yet you're not using a glyph of raptor strike in either spec. It mitigates an insane amount of damage in some PvE encounters and is amazing for PvP; no excuse for not having it with empty glyph slots. Hunters have enough defensive CDs/tricks without resorting to odd specs; I'd be interested in seeing your CD usage in a log.
  • Your BM spec/glyphs have some glaring mistakes as well, so I'm doubting Kbore's comment about "reads up on his class and studies all he can."

Gear

  • You picked up T11 gloves on 6/28 (and got shoulders this week), yet you're not using 4-piece T11. Yes it's better to have 4-piece than one T12. Just because it's Firelands gear doesn't mean it's better. You should hang on to 4-piece T11 for as long as possible, and the fact that you didn't realize that is a big concern. It also throws your entire stat priority out of whack.
  • What stat weightings are you using? I want some numbers, not "agi is better than mastery." Your reforging is all over the place.
  • Helm - If you're over the haste threshold, you should use the mastery cogwheel
  • Neck - Wrong reforge
  • Shoulders - Wrong reforge
  • Back - Wrong reforge, wrong enchant
  • Chest - Bad enchant, wrong gem (You're 11 points under hit cap, yet not using a 20 agi / 20 hit gem that would give you the same amount of agi with the socket bonus and put you over the cap)
  • Bracers - Wrong enchant
  • Gloves - Wrong gloves, wrong enchant
  • Belt - Would need hit if you reforged correctly
  • Pants - Would need hit if you reforged correctly
  • Boots - Wrong gem
  • Ring 1 - Would need hit if you reforged correctly
  • Ring 2 - Wrong reforge
  • Trinket 1 - Wrong reforge
  • Trinket 2 - Wrong reforge
  • Ranged weapon - Would need hit if you reforged correctly
  • Melee weapon - Good news! This one's okay!


By fixing all the things that are wrong with your gear, spec, and glyphs, I saw a 1,609 DPS increase. There shouldn't be that much of a disparity if you were well versed in the class. I'm not going to list out all the changes I made to get there, so read up on the class, make the changes, and we'll see how close you get.

View PostPyrelik, on 14 July 2011 - 01:18 PM, said:

Screenshot of your UI, preferably in a raid environment:
I don't have a screen shout of my UI handy but I use ElvUI, recount, DBM, and assorted other addons as needed,


Not a good answer, get one.

View PostPyrelik, on 14 July 2011 - 01:18 PM, said:

World of Logs Report:
I also do not have a world of logs reference


Ditto.

Between all the errors and the lack of a log, the only thing that's gotten you this far is Kbore's recommendation (and 5-mans / BGs don't hold much weight). Fix your character and prove you know your stuff.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:37 PM

Partially my fault as I told him that mastery was worse than haste and crit. My hunter is still far enough away from the haste cap that I totally forgot about it.

Pyre, told you they'd be tough ;). I'll provide a hint. Check out EJ.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:52 PM

View PostWrathblood, on 15 July 2011 - 06:37 PM, said:

Partially my fault as I told him that mastery was worse than haste and crit.


Good lesson to learn, never assume anyone knows what they're talking about. That includes me. Do your own research and make an informed choice. There's nothing wrong with an unpopular decision as long as you can back it up.

Also, post your UI, it takes 3 minutes to do. Guess how long I took to write that last post with one arm in a sling.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 03:58 PM

most all my class my class info come [url="http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/cataclysm-hunter-guides/"] no i do not have any solid numbers to back up why i went agi heavy over mastery heavy other than the AP conversion
Attack Power 14 AP (attack power) = 1 dps (auto-shot)
Agility
1 Agility = 2 AP
324.85 Agility = 1% crit
1 Agil = .55 Crit Rating

thats all i got to be honest and here is my UI http://s1083.photobu...s/j391/Pyrelik/
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Posted 17 July 2011 - 09:43 AM

Not really the answer I was looking for. Looks like you're using 4-piece at least (gloves unenchanted) but I still don't see any clear direction in your reforging, enchanting, gemming, spec/glyphing.

Also, from the lack of bindings (steady shot is 6, feign death is -) it looks like you're a clicker. I know hunters have a lot of buttons to push but it's in your best interest to use keybindings. Start with your main rotation until you get used to it, and just keep adding more. I use 40-50 bindings depending on what spec I'm playing.

Not sure if you use any addons to track your CDs, ISS uptime, MMM procs, etc. but you should.

My recommendation is going to be a no, but I'll leave the final decision up to Wrath. He's the one fighting in the trenches for recruits so it wouldn't be fair to machine-gun him down at the knees if he thinks he could use you.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 08:33 AM

App denied.

Thank you for your interest, and good luck with your guild search.
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