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#1 Guest_Achelous - Drenden_*

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:14 AM

Discuss your talents and tell us how long you have been this particular spec:
-I'm a blood speced Death Knight, I switched over to it once I hit 85 in Cataclysm so I've only been tank speced for a while. I'm also duel speced to frost at the moment and very well at DPS. I picked my talents very intelligently and I used http://deathknightbuilds.com/ to help me pick them at some points.

Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
-Yes and yes.

Do you have an authenticator?
-Yes.

Typical Weekly Playtime:
-Monday-Friday (4pm-11pm) Saturday (10am-whatever) Sunday (12am-11pm)

Time Zone:
-Central Standard Time

Previous Guilds:
-Velocity, R E L O A D E D, Hells Legion, Game Over.

Previous Raiding Experience:
-I have gone 12/12 in ICC10 and 4/12 in ICC25, I haven't done any Cataclysm raids yet, but I'm begging to get geared for it.

Why are you applying to us:
-I'm applying because I heard that Heresiarch is a great raiding guild from some of the people I met in the guild.

Link us your Armory:
-http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/drenden/achelous/simple

Do you know anyone in guild? If so please list your pals.
-Ardune, I met him in a raid a couple of days ago and he lead me here

Tell us a bit about yourself:
-I came to WOW about 1 1/2 years ago and I started off with a hunter and got him to 55 when I switched over to a Death Knight, I got him up to 80 very quickly in WOTLK and got him to a GS of around 5.6. Now in Cataclysm I'm trying to find a new helping guild that does good raids with new people I can meet.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:17 AM

I like the tone and style of this app a lot, but the substance is questionable. No professions, glyphs look like placeholders (glyph of HB isn't going to contribute a lot to a blood build), and the gear and rep levels look like someone who's still just getting started. We're recruiting for raiding, and heroics, imo, are a really good test of how well a tank will handle raids. Unfortunately, if you aren't well enough geared to handle heroics, its harder for us to test whether you're worth the effort.

As I said, I like the approach, but you need to put it some more work and make some more progress (getting gear from rep, running the normal instances, crafted gear, etc) and then we can talk.
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#3 Guest_Achelous - Drenden_*

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:09 PM

View PostWrathblood, on 23 December 2010 - 08:17 AM, said:

I like the tone and style of this app a lot, but the substance is questionable. No professions, glyphs look like placeholders (glyph of HB isn't going to contribute a lot to a blood build), and the gear and rep levels look like someone who's still just getting started. We're recruiting for raiding, and heroics, imo, are a really good test of how well a tank will handle raids. Unfortunately, if you aren't well enough geared to handle heroics, its harder for us to test whether you're worth the effort.

As I said, I like the approach, but you need to put it some more work and make some more progress (getting gear from rep, running the normal instances, crafted gear, etc) and then we can talk.


As I said in my application I just recently switched to blood, meaning I'm completely new to it, I'm still learning, and I mostly applied for DPS anyways until I'm ready for tanking. I really don't see why having proffesions matter, I have other accoutns with proffesions, I just planned on not having any gathering professions on this toon so I would wait to 85 to start. And my reputation may be low in some parts but I do have gear from some of my reps, for instance: I have some gear from Ramakhen..
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:16 PM

View PostAchelous - Drenden, on 23 December 2010 - 04:09 PM, said:

View PostWrathblood, on 23 December 2010 - 08:17 AM, said:

I like the tone and style of this app a lot, but the substance is questionable. No professions, glyphs look like placeholders (glyph of HB isn't going to contribute a lot to a blood build), and the gear and rep levels look like someone who's still just getting started. We're recruiting for raiding, and heroics, imo, are a really good test of how well a tank will handle raids. Unfortunately, if you aren't well enough geared to handle heroics, its harder for us to test whether you're worth the effort.

As I said, I like the approach, but you need to put it some more work and make some more progress (getting gear from rep, running the normal instances, crafted gear, etc) and then we can talk.



i missed the reply. oh there it is

View PostAchelous - Drenden, on 23 December 2010 - 04:09 PM, said:

View PostWrathblood, on 23 December 2010 - 08:17 AM, said:

I like the tone and style of this app a lot, but the substance is questionable. No professions, glyphs look like placeholders (glyph of HB isn't going to contribute a lot to a blood build), and the gear and rep levels look like someone who's still just getting started. We're recruiting for raiding, and heroics, imo, are a really good test of how well a tank will handle raids. Unfortunately, if you aren't well enough geared to handle heroics, its harder for us to test whether you're worth the effort.

As I said, I like the approach, but you need to put it some more work and make some more progress (getting gear from rep, running the normal instances, crafted gear, etc) and then we can talk.


As I said in my application I just recently switched to blood, meaning I'm completely new to it, I'm still learning, and I mostly applied for DPS anyways until I'm ready for tanking. I really don't see why having proffesions matter, I have other accoutns with proffesions, I just planned on not having any gathering professions on this toon so I would wait to 85 to start. And my reputation may be low in some parts but I do have gear from some of my reps, for instance: I have some gear from Ramakhen..




Proffesions matter since they give u extra stats depending on the proffesion
saying that does not look good in your application
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:27 PM

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I picked my talents very intelligently

Prove it. I hate apps that give vague crap like this. Most of the trees now have a few optional talents and people should be able to intelligently discuss why they made certain decisions over others.

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I really don't see why having proffesions matter, I have other accoutns with proffesions,

Red flags.

Nothing in the app is blowing my skirt up. Just another generic "meh" app imo. Also looking at armory this toon is geared for heroics not raids.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:41 PM

Deceax,

I disagree. He's not geared for heroics, he's geared for perhaps questing. He'd need a strong group to carry him through even the easiest heroics.

His follow-up cost some of the points he earned with the initial app. Comes across as a little defensive and makes some comments that suggest he doesn't get what is required.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:25 PM

Well here's the thing Wrath.

From the DPS perspective - Dec really cares about maybe 2 things (give or take a few since I'm not a mind reader):
1. You know your class. If he assaults your choice in talents - you better be able to back it up. (Granted its OK to be wrong since not everyone does leet math and not everything is an obvious choice in WoW. But yeah - give us something to chew on.)
2. You're not an idiot. Fire isn't a problem. Hell, you don't even know fire does damage because you've never been dumb enough to try it to find out! (Overexaggeration ofc.)

It says he can DPS if needed which is prob why Dec popped in. That said - this guy is apping to be a tank. The ball is in your court Wrath. I'm was hoping you'd get down and dirty on tanking mechanics with him to see if he's half good but meh - take it at your own pace xD
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:45 PM

Hec, read what I said again. I'm not so much disagreeing with Deceax as amplifying his comments.

Deny for now, but if he wants to re-app when he's in roughly ilevel 340+ gear then we'll reconsider.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:57 PM

You were disagreeing with the meh comment on the app right?

I was saying it was true - the app is meh. The post goes on to say why >>
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:25 AM

View PostHecatus, on 23 December 2010 - 11:57 PM, said:

You were disagreeing with the meh comment on the app right?

I was saying it was true - the app is meh. The post goes on to say why >>


Stop giving the Asians a bad name and l2read. Decocks said the app wasn't geared to raid, but more for heroics. Wrath was saying the app is even worse, and not fit for heroics. They both agreed that he didn't seem like a good fit for raiding.

As far as the professions go, I think he was saying that he didn't see the point of having professions while leveling (and would level them at 85), but I do agree that he was a bit stand-offish about it.
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 02:24 AM

View PostSobeyet, on 24 December 2010 - 12:25 AM, said:

Stop giving the azns a bad name and r2read. Decocks said the app wasn't geared to raid, but more for herrowics. Wrath was saying the app is even worss, and not fit for herrowics. They both agreed that he didn't seem rike a good fit for raiding.

As far as the professions go, I think he was saying that he didn't see the point of having professions while revering (and would rever them at 85), but I do agree that he was a bit stand-offish about it.


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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:44 AM

lol
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 11:41 AM

View PostHecatus, on 24 December 2010 - 02:24 AM, said:

View PostSobeyet, on 24 December 2010 - 12:25 AM, said:

Stop giving the azns a bad name and r2read. Decocks said the app wasn't geared to raid, but more for herrowics. Wrath was saying the app is even worss, and not fit for herrowics. They both agreed that he didn't seem rike a good fit for raiding.

As far as the professions go, I think he was saying that he didn't see the point of having professions while revering (and would rever them at 85), but I do agree that he was a bit stand-offish about it.


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That right there... that was funny.
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