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Why Sobe Gets Laid And Velk Doesn't

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:28 AM

Stats show iPhone Owners Get More Sex
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:30 AM

View PostLen, on 13 August 2010 - 08:28 AM, said:




Damn that Steve Jobs......they should have included how many of those people contracted an STD with all those sexual partners. I'll stick to my Android.....less trips to the clinic imo.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:38 AM

View PostLen, on 13 August 2010 - 08:28 AM, said:



Well more sexual partners, not necessarily more sex. Though all the numbers seem kind of low (6 partners by the age of 30, really?), especially considering they came from a dating site. Bad press for okcupid - "use our site, you won't find anyone worth fucking!"

I do have to say that the iPhone kicks ass for hooking up. Having a one-button GPS is INSANELY useful when drunkenly finding your way around some neighborhood you don't know at 4 am. UI is fantastic for juggling multiple email addresses, texting's a breeze too. And obviously it's a good conversation starter, especially with the novelty of the new one.

And Velk's never going to out-ho me, she plays for a small market team. It's like comparing the Yankees to the Kansas City Royals (I'd use the Iowa baseball team but Iowa doesn't even have one). Just the talent pool from the fashion/dance/theater industries in NYC (beautiful women, disproportionate amount of gay men) would smoke whatever Velk has access to within 500 miles.

View PostMorbidus, on 13 August 2010 - 09:30 AM, said:

Damn that Steve Jobs......they should have included how many of those people contracted an STD with all those sexual partners. I'll stick to my Android.....less trips to the clinic imo.


Don't hate just because you had a kid when you were 8 years old and got tied down.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:49 AM

Who said she has to be picky... if shes not its simply a question of numbers vs your pickiness.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 10:11 AM

View PostHecatus, on 13 August 2010 - 09:49 AM, said:

Who said she has to be picky... if shes not its simply a question of numbers vs your pickiness.


Oh, being female is the greatest advantage you can possibly have if you want to pad your bedpost count. But simple logistics. The entire state of Iowa has 3 million residents. Manhattan has 1.6, NYC has 8.4, greater metropolitan area has 19 million. Not to mention all the tourists/business travelers. And didn't Velk say her town only had like 10,000 people? Take out the elderly, the kids, the married (maybe not?), the women (hopefully not?), and the really ugly and there aren't that many people she can bang.

Let me put it this way: a gay man in NYC has more options (and hotter dudes) than a straight woman in Iowa.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 10:54 AM

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Let me put it this way: a gay man in NYC has more options (and hotter dudes) than a straight woman in Iowa.


Sobe knows from experience its why he moves so much and why he only sometimes talks on vent depends on his pill intake that week.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:08 AM

View PostRohanna, on 13 August 2010 - 10:54 AM, said:

Sobe knows from experience its why he moves so much and why he only sometimes talks on vent depends on his pill intake that week.


Eh? Are you saying I'm gay or a tranny? I could do a lot of things, but passing for a female is not one of them, regardless of what pills/hormones I was taking. Also don't see why I would have to move if I was either, do gays get run out of town in Canada or something?

I'm almost shocked that I'm not at least bi considering how many gay things I like - clothes, design, Glee, dance classes.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:27 AM

ah hell...i traded in my black berry for a droid incrediable...i just lowered myself on the chart.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:49 AM

View PostVelkyria, on 13 August 2010 - 11:27 AM, said:

ah hell...i traded in my black berry for a droid incrediable...i just lowered myself on the chart.


We found a way for Cuddle to roll back that mileage!
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 01:09 PM

View PostSobeyet, on 13 August 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:

didn't Velk say her town only had like 10,000 people?


The biggest problem is that out of the 10,000 she is probably related to at least 9,000 of them.


but hey does it really matter? being from Maine im guessing at least 3/4 of the chicks i've banged are related to me ROFL..
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 01:24 PM

View PostGoogleme, on 13 August 2010 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostSobeyet, on 13 August 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:

didn't Velk say her town only had like 10,000 people?


The biggest problem is that out of the 10,000 she is probably related to at least 9,000 of them.


but hey does it really matter? being from Maine im guessing at least 3/4 of the chicks i've banged are related to me ROFL..


Maybe the poll was just counting non-relatives and non-farm animals, that would explain the low numbers. I still can't get over the 6-12 by 30 though, aren't these people going to college? I mean it's one thing if you're a nub like Morb or Ryan and get hitched early, but I'm guessing most of these people are single if they're using a dating site. I would be shocked if any of my friends/acquaintances hadn't broken double digits by 25.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 03:00 PM

I thought it was because Sobe preys on girls that are either plastered or have severe self esteem issues and that Velk is secretly a nice person that has integrity.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:15 PM

View PostKarela, on 13 August 2010 - 03:00 PM, said:

Velk is secretly a nice person that has integrity.


And much lol was had. Velk is definitely the praying mantis type, she just leaves a headless husk behind when she's through with her mates.

And I would call your self esteem issues moderate, not severe Jo.

I got a good kick out of reading this, poor Kevin:

The reason for sexual cannibalism has been debated, with some considering submissive males to be achieving a selective advantage in their ability to produce offspring. This theory is supported by a quantifiable increase in the duration of copulation among males who are cannibalized, in some cases doubling both the duration and the chance of fertilization. This is further supported in a study where males were seen to approach hungry females with more caution, and were shown to remain mounted on hungry females for a longer time, indicating that males actively avoiding cannibalism may mate with multiple females. The act of dismounting is one of the most dangerous times for males during copulation, for it is at this time that females most frequently cannibalize their mates. This increase in mounting duration was thought to indicate that males would be more prone to wait for an opportune time to dismount from a hungry female rather than from a satiated female that would be less likely to cannibalize her mate. Some consider this to be an indication that male submissiveness does not inherently increase male reproductive success, rather that more fit males are likely to approach a female with caution and escape.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:47 PM

The reason most people have so few partners (6-12 by 30)is probably because most people do "relationships" that last months and years. And they stay monogamous in them. It's nice to date someone who knows what u like and how to make u happy and visa versa. Some people are just not comfortable unless they date a few times to try or engage in their favorite "kink" so they may keep the same partners.

Good sex with the right partner is good. I'm old and we still have sex like 3 times a week, sometimes more than once in a day. (even with 4 teens in the house) Yea I'm married but I could have dated a guy for a couple of years and had the same so my numbers would be low.

On the flip side I don't always understand women.

There are more women who are not willing to tell their partners what they like. I've talked to more women who tell me "I don't really like sex" or who have sex like once a month because they are only doing it for their partner. Some of these women act like they like and want it.....they they tell people they hate it.....scary. Are these the human equivalent of "hungry females" Marriage should not mean they found a submissive male for the hungry female to gobble up.

It is well documented that males are genetically engineered to want to have as many offspring so they like to "mount" as often as possible with as many different as they can. I would like to believe that a lot of human males do go beyond just the need to mount and use their brains. But perhaps there are less then I think. If most guys these days are the Wham Bam thank you Mam sort (of which i've experienced) I don't blame Velk for thinking there are no guys out there.

If a reasonable guy is not available there is always one's favorite 'Toys'. They can be better than guys!
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:34 PM

View Postliiliaa, on 13 August 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

The reason most people have so few partners (6-12 by 30)is probably because most people do "relationships" that last months and years. And they stay monogamous in them. It's nice to date someone who knows what u like and how to make u happy and visa versa. Some people are just not comfortable unless they date a few times to try or engage in their favorite "kink" so they may keep the same partners.


Well we agree to some extent, so some further clarification. I don't know how old you are, but a brief overview of sexuality in the US in the timeline I'm most familiar with, dating back to my parents (father was born in '53).

- In the 50s you had the baby boomers, nuclear family, etc. (Conservative backlash to WWII)
- In the 60s~70s you had the civil rights movement (more openness toward interracial relationships), women's lib (female empowerment, technically supposed to have more say about their own sexuality), and more openness toward sexuality in general.
- In the 80s~early90s you had another conservative backlash (history be cyclical yo) with STDs, especially with AIDS.
- In the ~late90s to present the needle swung back the other way (bad metaphor to use after the AIDS comment?), with the Internet (I hear it's for porn), Sex and the City / reality TV, cell phones / IM / texting, and a generation of kids whose parents married (and divorced) for love instead of societal obligation.

Now most people tend to turn more conservative as they age, but I would say that the dominant imprint for a person's sexuality is made from the culture he/she spends time in as a teenager through his/her 20s. That's when most people start dating, experimenting sexually, etc.

Now I'm closer to 30 than I'd care to admit, so I would consider these people close enough to be my peers. I was born in '84, a 30 year old now would be born in '80. So when I was a freshman in high school (when I started fooling around sexually) these people would be a freshman in college, not that far of a gap. One caveat is that these people may just be on the cusp of the cultural shift - they turn 18 in '98, just as the Internet starts to really take off, economy goes through the roof, and they may have been slightly early for cell phones in high school / college - a HUGE distinction. But still, 18-25 (1998-2005) is still fertile ground for messing around sexually.

Now I was a teenager in a relatively well off suburb in NY and spent my 18 - current years hanging around NYC, so I'm not going to try and speak for everyone's experience. But from the majority of the people that I do know in my age bracket (and I know a lot of people from different backgrounds; I travel in a lot of circles), most of them were fairly open minded sexually. I know people who had long term relationships in college and people that hit triple figures in # of partners before they're 30. But 6-12 seems way below the standard for my generation. Of course there are outliers like the triple figure people and the people who are (gasp) virgins at 30 (I wonder which is more rare in the US? I would say the virgin by far in a big city like NY), but I'm speaking about an average. With the bar/club/going out culture in NYC, you could go out once a week and easily hit 6-12 in a year if you're not absolutely fugly and willing to talk to people. And considering many people go out more than once a week when they're 18-25 (and beyond), and are single at some point between 18-30, I don't really see how 6-12 is representative. You could make the argument that the kind of people who use these dating sites (no judgment here) are more socially awkward or don't go out as much so that's a possibility.

View Postliiliaa, on 13 August 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

There are more women who are not willing to tell their partners what they like. I've talked to more women who tell me "I don't really like sex" or who have sex like once a month because they are only doing it for their partner. Some of these women act like they like and want it.....they they tell people they hate it.....scary. Are these the human equivalent of "hungry females" Marriage should not mean they found a submissive male for the hungry female to gobble up.


And that was sort of my point, the girls born in the 80s and beyond tend to be more open minded about their sexuality (in general) when compared to the previous generation. Body image is a bigger problem than ever and there are still plenty of insecure girls (talk about fish in a barrel). But, it's also easier than ever to find girls who are comfortable with their bodies and have sex just for their own enjoyment. Self confidence is sexy and the sex is always better with it (and don't think I didn't use that line in college to subliminally convince a girl into thinking a one-night stand is great). Ask any guy who gives a better BJ, an average girl that likes doing it or a hot one that doesn't.

Also, the sexual cannibalism was an inside joke at Karela since we're both into some twisted BDSM shit. The quote is from the wikipedia page for the praying mantis (was playing off her "preying" comment) and isn't meant for humans, I just thought it was a funny way to look at her relationship with her bf.

View Postliiliaa, on 13 August 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

If most guys these days are the Wham Bam thank you Mam sort (of which i've experienced) I don't blame Velk for thinking there are no guys out there.


I think it's the other way around with Velk mowing through dudes. Good for her.

I'm curious to hear from the 18-30 people that are single and going out now though, is it unusual to have sex with people soon after you meet them? I met a 19 year old a few weeks ago (one of the pseudo gfs I mentioned in the oops post) that would only do oral on the first night and I was floored; felt like I was back in high school.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 10:44 PM

I go out for the free drinks... No one gets any :D Its awesome.

No but really I think it would be interesting to see where the averages come from, and what they are defining as 'sex' when they took the averages because I still think its amazing how many people don't think certain sexual acts are sex.
--- and if its based off dating sites their may be cybor sex and people aren't counting it because they were 'tehnically' alone.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:04 PM

View PostRohanna, on 13 August 2010 - 10:44 PM, said:

I go out for the free drinks... No one gets any :D Its awesome.

No but really I think it would be interesting to see where the averages come from, and what they are defining as 'sex' when they took the averages because I still think its amazing how many people don't think certain sexual acts are sex.
--- and if its based off dating sites their may be cybor sex and people aren't counting it because they were 'tehnically' alone.


Inc roofie.

My personal definition of sex usually involves penetration. To me oral is just foreplay (mainly because most girls aren't good enough to get me off on it) and cyborz definitely don't count. I'd lump in oral with "hooking up" (I love the open-endedness of that term) but making out and cyborz/sexting still wouldn't count.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:09 PM

View PostSobeyet, on 13 August 2010 - 11:04 PM, said:


My personal definition of sex usually involves penetration.


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:43 PM

I had the biggest crush on Joey Lauren Adams growing up, maybe it was the squeaky voice. She'd be on my adolescent mount rushmore with Rachel Leigh Cook and Jennifer Love Hewitt. Last spot would have to go to Sarah Michelle Gellar (Buffy, duh) or Jena Malone (the indie pick).

But yes, I suppose I would feel more strongly about oral if girls were better at it. My expectations have slowly declined from my teenager years (OMFG THIS IS AWESOME) to now (yawn, wonder if she'll let me put it in her butt).
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:43 AM

View PostSobeyet, on 13 August 2010 - 08:34 PM, said:

I'm curious to hear from the 18-30 people that are single and going out now though, is it unusual to have sex with people soon after you meet them? I met a 19 year old a few weeks ago (one of the pseudo gfs I mentioned in the oops post) that would only do oral on the first night and I was floored; felt like I was back in high school.


Most of the teens I have contact with are still in high school. I know when most of the country was having sex right and left the bible belt was still a little behind the times. (I live in Houston) But even that is changing. Where my kids are not sexually active...nor most of their friends (personally i think it's rebellion since I'm their mother). Many of the students are sexually active. And yes I know because some of them tell me how often they masturbate a day/week and I get asked the questions most kids would never dream of asking an adult/parent. They also know if they need condoms I'll be glad to buy them if they are to embarrassed to buy them themselves.

I think you will see the figures go up in the near future.

It is also true that people associated with WW2 to the 50's spent a lot of time being embarrassed about the topic in general. So it doesn't surprise me that 'older people' are more conservative. We never had a "birds and the bees" discussion. I remember my mother taking away a book on sexuality from me at 16! I started having sex at 17.





BTW Sobe have u ever told a girl what u liked when it comes to Oral? If so did it make a difference? (yes this is a nosy question but u don't have to answer.)

I would like to say, my definition of sex includes penetration but on the other hand it drives me crazy when people (usually bible thumpers) brag they were virgins when they got married and penetration is the only thing they didn't do. Sometimes they have done nearly everything with many people too not just their intended)
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