[Shardik]

I could be looking at it wrong, but the log you posted doesn't show anything.

Edit: Also I would like to know if you are saved to ICC 25 this week. Hit up either Rohanna or myself and we can chat.

[Hecatus]

That would be correct Ryan. The log is blank.

Why did you leave your last guild any way?

[Sobeyet]

Elyndra, on 17 July 2010 - 02:37 PM, said:

raided everything in icc except RS

Not seeing much raid experience in any tier. 0 kills of KT, Yogg, 1 clear of ToC, 9/12 in ICC.

No 3/3 Ice Floes? I'm hardly a mage expert but why wouldn't you want a shorter CD on Icy Veins instead of reducing the cast time of frost bolt as an Arcane mage. Also, pure haste gems?

Elyndra, on 17 July 2010 - 08:57 PM, said:

When I applied for Requiem so that I could raid which is my priority..(I love it) I was demoted from officer to a recruit which is the bottom of the barrel. I understood the demotion from officer but not to recruit. So because of problems out of my control I lost my raiding status and when I tried to go where I could raid was demoted to the lowest level.

Wait what? You applied for Requiem, they made you an officer, then a recruit? Something is off about that. And I thought you said your previous guild was Unseen Wrath.

Elyndra, on 17 July 2010 - 08:57 PM, said:

I felt I was no longer wanted in the guild as even before this none of the officers would talk to me...I felt like I was not welcome to the mens club if you know what I mean. I was never asked for my opinions as an officer except in the very beginning of the guild startup.

Call me a cynic, but this statement reeks of drama.

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Rohanna has helped me tremendously on bettering my dps/damage.
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Don't even know what to say about that.

[Hecatus]

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When I applied for Requiem so that I could raid which is my priority..(I love it) I was demoted from officer to a recruit which is the bottom of the barrel. I understood the demotion from officer but not to recruit. So because of problems out of my control I lost my raiding status and when I tried to go where I could raid was demoted to the lowest level.

I think she applied to Req while still in Unseen Wrath and Unseen Wrath demoted her from officer to recruit... But yea... that single statement screams drama...

Noticed the Icy Floes earlier too and thought maybe she was forced to use slow for certain raid roles... but yea you want that puppy maxed right?

Lol @ Rohanna helping you dps.

[Sobeyet]

Elyndra, on 17 July 2010 - 02:37 PM, said:

I am loyal to the guild I am in

Elyndra, on 17 July 2010 - 09:35 PM, said:

I was demoted by unseen wrath when I applied to requiem.

Bit of a disconnect between those two statements. Most guilds have some variation of this policy, why would they want you to fill up a raid slot and take gear when you wanted to leave? I don't know all sides of the story so I'll just leave it at that.

Elyndra, on 17 July 2010 - 09:35 PM, said:

I was contacted by Rohanna as she saw my application on Requiems application page.

So are we poaching rejects from Requiem now? Don't know quite how I feel about that.

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Then I don't know why you still have flaws in your character that were pointed out when you were denied to Requiem. They posted some constructive criticism ( http://req.dkpsystem...=2453&newpost=1 ), this is your 2nd (perhaps more?) app, and you still haven't optimized your character?

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Swell guy.

[Hecatus]

Well at least she lowered her hit... but now I think she's under cap...

Arcane mages only get 3% talents and 3% from boomkin/spriest right?

She needs 11% by that math?

[Hecatus]

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Swell guy too if you catch my drift.

[Sobeyet]

Elyndra, on 17 July 2010 - 10:05 PM, said:

changed my gems (all but the yellow, I am still working on that one)

You're using 3 haste/spirit gems.

Elyndra, on 17 July 2010 - 10:05 PM, said:

as far as my spec tree as I stated earlier I am still trying to tweek it. I was planning on getting with Shadowrx who gave me the suggestions on my gear and get more assistance from him as he offered it.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to have to correct spec before you app to two raiding guilds? Looking at Requiem's app form:

"Have you read the sticky on the forum titled 'Applicants, Read Before You Apply?'
yes"

From the "Read Before You Apply" thread:

"What we expect from applicants:
You should be ready to step into a raiding environment, this means a few things. You should have the best gear available to you along with correct gemming and enchanting. Your spec and glyph choice should be the correct setup for whatever your roll calls for"

Emphasis mine on that last part. Where do you go for your mage information? Why aren't you doing your own reading and research? Also troubles me that you failed to provide a WoL on two separate apps and just gave up. Basic class knowledge is not that hard to come by, and I'm not seeing any initiative on your part to even cover the basics. Having the correct specs/gems/enchants is one of the easiest parts of raiding and requires no skill, just effort - have to take 10 mins to look it up once every few months, depending on class.


Edit: As an aside, I like the whole "having correct gem/enchant/spec/glyph" bit and if we should poach anything from Requiem it's that policy. Making some "non-conventional" decisions is fine, but the app should be able to provide solid reasoning and back it up with quantifiable evidence.

[Sobeyet]

Elyndra, on 18 July 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

I did not give up on this..I did ask for assist in trying to figure it out if you look back on my reply,,,I am sorry about the log thing but I just can't figure out how to do what you want. I have tried in a lot of different ways. I am usually do not have this much of blonde moment but I just don't know how to do it. I tried to figure it out but was unable to get it right.

I consider the attitude of "I can't do this, do it for me" giving up. Not to say that asking for help is a bad thing, but to me a motivated person with initiative doesn't take that route. And the fact that you can't follow basic instructions from a website doesn't bode well for, say reading a strat on our forums and executing it. And lets say you're an outlier with a bizarre never-before-seen bug that prevents you from getting it to work? You should have posted the steps you took and where it went wrong, both here and on the WoL forums. Give yourself more credit than just having a "blonde moment."

Elyndra, on 18 July 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

I have read up on my mage spec, gems, talents, and glyphs but I have found some information is old and the place to learn is from a mage that is better than you are. I do both learn from talented players and research on my own.

I'm sorry but who/where told you to gem spell pen and use a run speed meta? That's not outdated information, it's just plain wrong. Also, just because someone is better than you doesn't mean they're correct. You shouldn't take anything you hear on face value (yes even the stuff people are telling you here) - you should take the time to learn for yourself the reasons and verify the facts behind it. For example, you're going to switch out the yellow haste gems for orange sp/haste gems. Do you know why? Can you explain why the sp/haste is better for mages in your own words? If you can't, you really haven't learned anything; you're just regurgitating information that could be completely wrong.

[Voodie]

Gotta give her points for sticking with the application though Sobie's screening.

I don't see anything wrong with asking for help in getting a WOL going. Better she asks for help than just gives up.

The gemming and such is a valid concern though. I understand that you're trying to get that corrected, which is a good thing. When you go to sites like EJ, always check the date of the post/date of last edit to make sure you're getting current info. Also, when you google for a class breakdown, make sure to include the most recent patch number to help narrow down the links to more current info. Wow.com has a mage column each week called Arcane Brilliance, there were a few posts about gemming from patch 3.3.3. I think anything has changed since then, so I would imagine the info is still valid. I don't play a mage though, so I could be wrong there.

[Forte]

I love Arcane Brilliance. I just read it for the luls, that author is hilarious.

[Shardik]

Going to take it that since you joined Drama Society you are all set guild wise. Best of luck to you, hope the information helped ya.