[liiliaa]

Discuss your talents and tell us how long you have been this particular spec:
I am a destruction warlock. I leveled using destruction. I have been playing with affliction but still do not feel confident with it yet.

Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
Yes

Typical Weekly Playtime:
I can play all ur regular raid times. I am flexable but am not on many Saturdays. And where I can switch nights off I need to be with my family at least 1 weeknight. If u start earlier I teach piano after school on Tuesday's and Wednesdays but they are over by ur raid times.

Time Zone:
I live in Central time.

Previous Guilds:
Gated community, Ace, Dynasty and currently Backroom.

Previous Raiding Experience:
ICC 10 1st 6 bosses. I have worked on professor putricide, and dreamwalker some but my group did not finish them.
ICC 25 5 bosses including Festergut. Worked on Rotface.
Ulduar - hit and miss on bosses. some hard modes, there are about 3 or 4 i have never done.
Naxx - completely. toc10, toc25 Togc10 3 of 5 bosses OS253d etc.

Why are you applying to us:
I know a few people here and have heard good things. I used to think i wanted a casual raiding guild but discovered i wanted more. I have heard that the officers are good people willing to give advice and are fair.

Link us your Armory:
http://www.wowarmory...nden&cn=Liiliaa

Wow web stats reports:
not really a member of those reports. Recount for festergut i was running 7500-8500dps depending on the try but most of those i was in the middle and didn't have to vomit or move. only the 7500 i was moving.

Do you know anyone in guild? If so please list your pals.
Yes I know Aif(as it seems so many people do from forum comments)I know him very well. Nuadaa has helped me with advice several times about warlock and I've been in a few raids with him. I'll send him hugs when I see him, he'll remember me. There are others I have run with but they probably don't remember me.

Tell us a bit about yourself:
I am a mother of teenagers and am addicted to wow. I teach piano and seem to be the person everyone goes to when they have problems... I'm not sure why though lol. I am a long term dungeon and dragons/roleplaying gamer but have much less experience with game console games.

[Wrathblood]

Gear looks good, though I have no idea about the gems/enchants/spec. Would be nice to get at least a VoA recount (WoL dump even better), though we could use another lock.

[Googleme]

Hey Liiliaa ill get in touch tonight to talk to you a little more, everything looks solid to me unless somone else strongly objects or sees something I don't. Gear/gem/chant all looks pretty good, hodir enchant bonus points.


If you can name what the following is a picture of, and give me 3 times in ICC where this could be very useful than i'll invite you tonight






<3 Rystorm

[Charlagain]

I agree that gear and enchants look good, and I also have no idea about the destro spec. I have been in pug raids with her now and then on my alts, and she has pulled pretty respectable DPS (I have vague memories of a TOC25 where she was near the top, and I recall thinking how it was really good but I don't recall the exact numbers).

[Sobeyet]

Locks haven't had to gem crit this entire expansion. SP/Crit gem on a 264 staff is /boggle. Even in BiS haste is better than crit, and that's with rocking +1200 haste with diminishing returns. Can't seem to make up your mind when it comes to gemming - the +5 SP socket bonus on your ring is worth going for with a crappy blue gem, but the +7 SP on boots isn't? With the 3.3.3 change to the life tap glyph, spirit will be teh yuck so I don't see the point in having more than 2 blue gems for the meta.

Also, I'm curious why you spent 205 badges on back/chest/belt when 4-piece T10 is such a huge boost (somewhere around 300-500 DPS depending on gear) and none of the badge stuff you got is BiS. The belt especially seems like a waste when a better one drops off Marrowgar, which is puggable even if you're not raiding consistently. Ironically the one badge piece I really do like (and consider BiS) you didn't get, the gloves. In my 264 BiS list I had Helm/Shoulders/Chest/Legs for tier pieces and the badge gloves - I'd like to hear the thought process behind your gear choices.

Over hit cap with a spriest, I'd get rid of that hit trinket as fast as possible.

Wrathblood, on 15 March 2010 - 06:17 AM, said:

though we could use another lock.

Do we really though? We have an affliction + a demo atm and a destro lock not specced into replenishment has less utility than a mage. They take the same gear, and you know our luck with Pally/Priest/Lock tokens. I don't see what a destro lock would bring to the raid, usually lags behind affliction by about 500 DPS. I haven't seen anything that says Liiliaa is going to be beating our shadow priests, so at that point you're just adding another mediocre mage.

A WoL parse might change my mind, but I'm willing to bet she doesn't mash incinerate enough. I was pulling ~8.8k as destro with no 264 pieces, so in her gear she should be doing 9.5k easy (I'd say +10k, but don't know the raid comps she was running in). Not against the idea of getting another lock, but I was thinking more along the lines of an affliction lock pulling 11k.

[Puddingcup]

rystorm, on 15 March 2010 - 07:28 AM, said:

Hey Liiliaa ill get in touch tonight to talk to you a little more, everything looks solid to me unless somone else strongly objects or sees something I don't. Gear/gem/chant all looks pretty good, hodir enchant bonus points.


If you can name what the following is a picture of, and give me 3 times in ICC where this could be very useful than i'll invite you tonight






<3 Rystorm

I lol'd a hearty lol

[Wrathblood]

Hmm, good point about the locks, Sobe. While Nuadaa takes a lot of abuse for various reasons (most of it not entirely fairly, imo, though I recognize that a lot of it is meant in jest) he's got great attendance, and while I was going to toss out Rixxart's 47% attendance the last 30-days, then I realized he didn't really start raiding seriously again until the end of Feb and his attendance has been sparkling since then (speaking of attendance, Serror is 0 for March so far. He's coming back, right?).

That having been said, I think you'd have a hard time convincing me that ranged dps (though possibly not specifically locks) isn't our role with the least depth. I don't mind the competition on the trophy drops. I've resigned myself to never getting any anyway.

[Bearforceone]

A question: Do you frequently blame Deathknights and their stuns for your misfortunes in raids?

[Sobeyet]

According to Rohanna Serror is focusing on school atm, so he'll probably be out for a while.

It may be true that we don't have as many ranged as melee, I don't think we're really starved for one either. In terms of raid synergy, I suppose another good boomkin wouldn't hurt, we've got 2 good spriests, 2 meh ele shaman, but I don't think we're hurting in terms of locks/mages (5-6 on the roster? Should be plenty most of the time).

My personal opinion is that unless we're in dire need of a class, every new recruit should be as good if not better than our best players. Otherwise you're just clogging the roster with mediocre players, and we've always shied away from demoting/gkicking people. If we pick up a good/great player, the problem usually fixes itself by either: 1) the other people in the same class usually pick up the slack after seeing what they should be doing or 2) the mediocre person gquits since they get sat for the better player.

Speculating here, but if Liiliaa does pull somewhere around 8k, she'll be in the middle of the pack with our mages and behind the spriests. I don't see it helping us kill BQL. Now if she was pulling 10k she'd be ahead of our spriests and I think it would be worth it. With our roster being relatively full, it's more about skill than class at this point imo. Hell I'd even pick up another mage if he/she was good. A decently geared mage (251/264 non-BiS gear?) should be keeping up with me and our rogues and maybe motivate the mages we have. I don't think any of our rogues are geared to the teeth and I'm still using a crap weapon + 245 T9 pieces so that's where I'm setting the bar for a pure DPS class.

[Nuadaa]

Bearforceone, on 15 March 2010 - 10:54 AM, said:

A question: Do you frequently blame Deathknights and their stuns for your misfortunes in raids?

What is this some kinda of inside joke?

>_>


<3

[Rohanna]

I am actually totally confused by your availability we raid
6:45-10pm central Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Sunday...
can you make these.

Also guess this is as good a place as any since Sobe brought it up and apparently Phayth knows so the whole server must have an idea. I highly doubt we will ever Serror again, between work and school he just doesn't have the time and he can't really afford it. I will be keeping his account up for myself to play, and we have access to his patterns and what not (although I think most of the guild has them now anyways). So recruiting healers is high on the list.

We have 2 warlocks Rixx and Nuadaa. And really need another Moonkin. I don't think we have more melee than ranged I think they are exactly equal we just have ranged bail more often.

[Sobeyet]

Actually going to move this to member chat, no info that isn't publicly available, but w/e.

[Wrathblood]

Wow. Sad panda .

Hopefully its more that he's got a lot going on and needs a break. I'll hold out hope that when summer rolls around we'll see him again. Phayth's ability to know essentially everything never ceases to amaze.

[Charlagain]

Sobe, your objections to inviting anyone new into the guild reminds me of the classic job recruitment problem - most job ads say things like "wanted, x years of experience in this, y years of experience in that, must have on-hands use of A, B, and C" - thing is, the only people who fit that job description ALREADY work at the place advertising, because that's where they get that specific experience. It's like the chicken and the egg problem - can't get the experience if you're not doing the raiding, and if you're not doing the raiding you can't get the experience.

Now I don't know if we need another caster, or Warlock specifically, but most people who join Heresiarch improve their DPS - some by quite a lot. There are many knowledgeable people in the guild, you being the foremost, and people pick up a lot of info on improving their rotations, their gear, and their DPS ("mash faster!") from raiding with us. And while I wouldn't want to recruit a person in all blues who just hit 80, I think picking up a person who can pull their weight - and who has the potential to improve - is a good thing. So while she might not top the charts when she first comes into a raid, I think it's possible that with some small improvements she might get there.

[Sobeyet]

Charlagain, on 15 March 2010 - 12:47 PM, said:

Sobe, your objections to inviting anyone new into the guild reminds me of the classic job recruitment problem - most job ads say things like "wanted, x years of experience in this, y years of experience in that, must have on-hands use of A, B, and C" - thing is, the only people who fit that job description ALREADY work at the place advertising, because that's where they get that specific experience. It's like the chicken and the egg problem - can't get the experience if you're not doing the raiding, and if you're not doing the raiding you can't get the experience.

Now I don't know if we need another caster, or Warlock specifically, but most people who join Heresiarch improve their DPS - some by quite a lot. There are many knowledgeable people in the guild, you being the foremost, and people pick up a lot of info on improving their rotations, their gear, and their DPS ("mash faster!") from raiding with us. And while I wouldn't want to recruit a person in all blues who just hit 80, I think picking up a person who can pull their weight - and who has the potential to improve - is a good thing. So while she might not top the charts when she first comes into a raid, I think it's possible that with some small improvements she might get there.

Interesting idea, but I think of it slightly differently. "Pushing buttons fast" is a skill set that does not require raiding experience to be exceptional at, yet is the biggest source of DPS disparity for most people. Situational awareness, consistency in performance, adjusting strategy on the fly - those are skills that I would expect an unseasoned raider to lack, though it is possible for him/her to have them.

To use your job analogy, I'm all about recruiting people who have the "it" factor - even if they lack experience or some of the specific skills for the job, talented and driven people will always succeed. You can tell after a few minutes of conversation if someone is a "star" even if it's some fresh-faced kid just out of college. Going back to WoW, I don't expect people to know everything about their class and every boss fight, just give me someone who can mash buttons and it's something to work with. I still can't get a feel for how good Liiliaa is at mashing since she hasn't posted a WoL, but if we're to go by her word it seems she is lacking the fundamentals.

Also, the bar is raised a bit higher since we are relatively full, If we had 18 DPSers as opposed to 24, 8k would probably be enough to give her a shot. If I saw her pulling 8k in a pug ToC 25 I'd be happy she was there. But in terms of adding value to what we currently have? I'm not sure if it's a improvement. Are we going to start sitting/demoting the underperforming mages and ele shaman to make room for an underperforming lock? Some have been in the guild a while and are stuck in the mediocre category.

And I'm not opposed to recruiting new players. If you remember I thought we should've taken that Frost DK. From the WoL he posted I think he could've pulled 9-10k with a bit of polish, even in his gimp spec. I think it would have also been good competition for you, since you're about 1-2k DPS lower than you should be. Those are the kinds of players I look for, but I'm just not getting that vibe from this app.

[Dokmora]

Heck, another parent of teenagers addicted to WoW...thought I was just about the only one!!


Dok

[Aif]

she is good....good friend of mines...wat ever the problem she has we/I can fix it....cuz im BOSS lol

[Rohanna]

Well speaking of situational awareness being the biggest DPS lose for most people (death most often). And even mashing buttons.
I have say from experience with this guild (being here so long and watching everyone) the women have the hardest time improving this ... it usually takes them months longer than the males in the guild to pick this stuff up.

Placing them on different zones of learning this is something I have a habit of doing (probably not a good thing) but I expect the males to heal more than the females when recruited and give the women a longer period of time to improve before taking the time to work everything out and talk to them. Usually though the last few women have taken it upon themselves to fix things, by asking the guys which has proved me wrong and YAY!

Maybe she will be the same.

[Hecatus]

Just a thought, but why did we turn down that dk?

He seemed fairly ballin' and even had Sobe's approval for a test run. Charl was dc'ing a lot at the time and getting swapped out and we didn't have Chris raiding at the time... Fairly legit reasons to take an above average dps...

Personally I'd like another lock simply cause Rix isn't 100% w/ us yet and SS/faster imp shadow bolt being up is a plus for me... but besides standard dps... are we really getting anything? o.o

We're really hurting for a boomkin... when bear goes off for the night or something... it hurts bad. Chance on proc 5% vs constant/static 5% crit and sometimes no earth/moon depending on the night (13% caster dmg)

[Rohanna]

Rixx has shown up 100% of the time since he joined.

She hasn't be declined yet we are still chatting, with the officers about it.