[Forte]

Definitely Sasori

[Puddingcup]

Never noticed. Kankuro is too much of a noob to use Sasori though.

[Shiraki]

Oshibo, on 11 February 2010 - 05:53 AM, said:

Never noticed. Kankuro is too much of a noob to use Sasori though.

YOU TAKE IT BACK~

Kankuro is a total BAMF.

you're probably still thinking of chuunin exam level Kankuro. he's a jounin now, so he's definitely good enough to protect the kazekage, and definitely good enough to wield Sasori.

it's like comparing chuunin exam Naruto to Sage Mode Naruto. apples and oranges, my friend.

[Guinthel]

[Puddingcup]

Shiraki, on 11 February 2010 - 06:33 AM, said:

Oshibo, on 11 February 2010 - 05:53 AM, said:

Never noticed. Kankuro is too much of a noob to use Sasori though.

YOU TAKE IT BACK~

Kankuro is a total BAMF.

you're probably still thinking of chuunin exam level Kankuro. he's a jounin now, so he's definitely good enough to protect the kazekage, and definitely good enough to wield Sasori.

it's like comparing chuunin exam Naruto to Sage Mode Naruto. apples and oranges, my friend.

You take yourself back. He got his shit wrecked by sasori, then someone else killed the dude and now he's all LOL IM AWESOME GUYS LOOK I HAVE SASORI. He's a bitch that got owned by poison. L2P KANKURO

[Sobeyet]

This thread is too Asian even for me.

[Innocence]

FUCKING NERDS

[Forte]

Oshibo, on 11 February 2010 - 06:49 AM, said:

You take yourself back. He got his shit wrecked by sasori, then someone else killed the dude and now he's all LOL IM AWESOME GUYS LOOK I HAVE SASORI. He's a bitch that got owned by poison. L2P KANKURO

Of course he did, he was using the puppets that Sasori had designed so naturally Sasori knew all their weaknesses. The whole Puppet technique is about surprise and catching your opponent off guard with weapons in unexpected places. If your opponent knows all of that, you're pretty well screwed. We'll actually have to see him in a proper fight to see how well he can use Sasori tho, but I think it'll be pretty bad ass. Kankuro is pretty clever



See his opponent was totally off balance the whole time, no idea what to expect.



Where as here Sasori just made him a bitch because he knew all the weak spots.

[Sobeyet]

Needs Moar:

[Puddingcup]

Maybe Kankurou isn't a complete noob but as far as the manga has progressed thus far, the evidence has piled up against him. His accomplishments accumulate to having some guy fall into one of his puppets and get stabbed to death. Oh yea, didn't you say Sakura is useless? Isn't she the one that saved Kankurou? Also, everybody is fighting Akatsuki and stuff. And winning. Kankurou is busy being noob.

[Shiraki]

Oshibo, on 11 February 2010 - 09:38 PM, said:

Maybe Kankurou isn't a complete noob but as far as the manga has progressed thus far, the evidence has piled up against him. His accomplishments accumulate to having some guy fall into one of his puppets and get stabbed to death. Oh yea, didn't you say Sakura is useless? Isn't she the one that saved Kankurou? Also, everybody is fighting Akatsuki and stuff. And winning. Kankurou is busy being noob.

the unfortunate thing about the manga is that it can only cater to one main character, and while totally badass, Kankuro just isn't a main character. there was a huge time gap between the Valley of the End (end of the first part of the anime) and the Rescue Gaara arc (beginning of the second part of the anime). two and a half years passed. that was enough time for Kankuro to gain two ninja ranks, become a personal guard to the Kazekage, get another new puppet AND master it, and learn a puppet sealing scroll technique (for easy and handy puppet storage, what a clever guy!). but we didn't get to see any of that because the name of the series is Naruto, not Kankuro.

also, I totally agree with you on the Sakura front. she's not useless at all. BUT, Kishimoto seems to have a vendetta against all female characters that he creates. he makes this awesome character in Sakura: she trained under the godaime Hokage, uses medical ninjutsu, and was originally a genjutsu type. BUT. she's vapid, emotional, and, once again, the title of the series is Naruto, not Sakura. so even though she has all of these abilities at her disposal, she doesn't really get much opportunity to show off her skills, so instead we get two episodes of shirtless, water-covered Naruto, cutting a waterfall in half (not that I'm complaining, makes for good fanservice).

I'm not really sure where I was going with this. it's 6:30 AM and I'm still half-asleep. but there's a point in there somewhere!

[Puddingcup]

I don't really understand Kishimoto's "fan service". Why not have Sakura shirtless and wet, cutting a waterfall. Jesus. Anywho, Kankuro failing vs Sasori aside... he never took up Sasori's extremely valid point in the fact that the puppetmaster style leaves a lot of openings to get noobtubed. I can imagine his fighting style to be useful against say, Lee or even the Raikage. But anyone with any decent ranged stuff would probably wreck his face open along with his pets (which is exactly why it was Sakura, a close-quarters-combat fighter, that had to fight Sasori).

[Forte]

Oshibo, on 11 February 2010 - 09:38 PM, said:

Maybe Kankurou isn't a complete noob but as far as the manga has progressed thus far, the evidence has piled up against him. His accomplishments accumulate to having some guy fall into one of his puppets and get stabbed to death. Oh yea, didn't you say Sakura is useless? Isn't she the one that saved Kankurou? Also, everybody is fighting Akatsuki and stuff. And winning. Kankurou is busy being noob.

Sakon fell into his puppet because Kankuro forced him into it. Also, what other evidence is there? The only fight he's lost was to Sasori because of the aforementioned reasons. As far as the whole fighting Akaktsuki business Kankuro is busy protecting the Kazekage, everyone has a different role to play. Saving Kankuro from the poison is the only usefull thing Sakura has done the entire manga. Name one other time she did something helpfull.

[Puddingcup]

Sakura is a necessary character. She's the love interest to the protagonist and provides some of the only comic relief in the manga. She's that clueless person and has personality traits that are common amongst real people which gives her a sense of real humanity. I think like Kankuro, her abilities go unseen and undeveloped. We all know she is proficient with basic abilities dealing with chakra manipulations and hand-to-hand. And this is how she becomes more valuable. Since she's the Hermione of the bunch, she gains perfect chakra control and turns out to be a medical ninja. I guess that isn't cool... and so far hasn't been useful but that's only because nobody else ever gets seriously injured. I can't see the ability to dodge stuff and punch really hard as a decent way to fight at the jounin level though =/ She'll get better. Time is all it takes.

[Forte]

I agree with you there. I just don't much like her, I think it's more like what Shiraki was mentioning about the creator being sexist.

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