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Posted 09 November 2009 - 10:41 PM

Discuss your talents and tell us how long you have been this particular spec:
The spec I mainly run is a 3/51/17 frost dual wield spec. It's considered a cookie cutter build for frost dps.
I've played this spec since the release of 3.2. (So about 3 months? with minor tweaks here and there.)

Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
Yes to Vent and mic =)

Typical Weekly Playtime:
It honestly depends on the week. I don't work during the raid times, so attending raids is not an issue. I play 4-5 hours on Saturdays, and an extra hour or two on all weekdays (besides raid times)

Time Zone:
PST (pacific standard time)
I've never had any issues with time zones though =P

Previous Guilds:
I'll list my main 3 (wrath)
Redux (from spirestone, a while back)
IL Seragilo (drenden alliance guild)
Anguish (another drenden alliance guild)

Previous Raiding Experience:
TBC - didn't really raid at all.
Wrath - 10 naxx full clears, 25 naxx clears, 10 ulduar hard modes, and reg. 25 ulduar, some hard modes. Almost full clear reg
10 toc normal(5/5) and heroic (3/5?)
25 toc normal(5/5) and heroic (2/5 on my druid, and pally)
10/25 voa, and onyxia.

Why are you applying to us:
I'm switching factions, and I recently saw one of your troll priests, she seemed to have decent gear, so I looked you guys up on google. Then I decided I would give it a shot to apply. Anyways, I'm mainly applying because I like the way your guild is structured.

Link us your Armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...amp;n=Romancing
blood spec is my tanking,
frost spec is my DPS.

Wow web stats reports:
Hmm, I actually don't have one readily available. I'd be more than happy to get one for you after our raid tomorrow night.
To give you a rough idea of my dps, it's around 5.5-6k on tank and spank fights. On fights like the beasts of northrend, it tends to go down to about 5k-5.5k
Obviously just saying that isn't enough, but I'll post one ASAP.

Do you know anyone in guild? If so please list your pals.
I don't, actually. I'm currently alliance, so being pals with horde people isn't easy for me.

Tell us a bit about yourself:
Obviously I like to play WoW. I work for INTEL with an entry level internship job, and I attend the University of Arizona (majoring in biochemistry), I'm 24 and engaged. I'm a very social person, and I love getting the chance to meet new people, and mesh with new guilds.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 01:26 AM

What's your major? I'm a B.S. Computer Engineering/M. Software Engineering
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:52 AM

Couple of questions:

- Why Glyph of Howling Blast instead of Glyph of Disease?

- Why are you using a fast off-hand? DW builds used the slowest off-hand possible.

- Your Sons of Hodir rep is only Honored. Small thing, yeah, but why haven't you maxed it out for the shoulder enchant?

- Most raiders try to min-max. To that end, why don't you have any professions?
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 08:04 AM

I like the tone of the app quite a bit, but charlagain asks some good questions (romancing, count yourself lucky he restrained himself to a single digit's worth of questions). We look for an attitude as much or more than a gearscore, and a lack of hodir rep (and professions even more so) is a big red flag. Spend a few hours leveling skinning to 450 at least. Its a crappy bonus, but its better than nothing, its free, and the heavy borean leather you get is about to become a lot more valuable. Then sell the leather and use the money to level JC or something that's useful.

Kimi, I'll take a wild stab and say he's a biochem major. Call it a hunch.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:56 AM

View PostCharlagain, on Nov 10 2009, 07:52 AM, said:

Couple of questions:

- Why Glyph of Howling Blast instead of Glyph of Disease?

- Why are you using a fast off-hand? DW builds used the slowest off-hand possible.

- Your Sons of Hodir rep is only Honored. Small thing, yeah, but why haven't you maxed it out for the shoulder enchant?

- Most raiders try to min-max. To that end, why don't you have any professions?


Everyone asks the same questions, and I'm glad to answer them. Currently, the glyphs I'm using keep my dps pretty equal to what the disease glyph would do. I have tested it, and this best fits my play style (though it might not be others preferences, this works best for me.)

To address the fast off-hand. To be completely honest, it was either that or the one handed mace from toc 5 heroic. I do plan on replacing it, I've actually spent a lot of time trying to get a new one. It has been my #1 priority in my gear, along side the trinket I need to replace.

Hodir rep.... yeahh, that's been an issue. I'll probably do that tonight or tomorrow night.

Professions were never my top priority, but if you guys would require that I go get them, I'll go get my JC and enchanting up. (yeah, I already have the money, so skinning wouldn't be my top choice)


Thanks for the feedback, I obviously have a couple things to change when I have my 30 day lockout.


View PostKimina, on Nov 10 2009, 02:26 AM, said:

What's your major? I'm a B.S. Computer Engineering/M. Software Engineering

I'm majoring in biochemistry.
The job in INTEL has nothing to do with my major. I actually work as a technician assistant =/
All I do is get stuff that the computer chip builders want, and do paperwork.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:24 AM

what does min-max mean? Karela said something having to do with my "min-maxing butt"
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:29 AM

As for offhand speed, I can't find the post on EJ now but I recall it was something like each 0.1 decrease in speed is equivalent to 50 DPS on the weapon. Take the Reaper of Dark Souls, an Ebon Blade rep reward. It's 2.7 speed and 130 DPS. A 1.5 speed weapon (1.2 seconds faster) would have to be 730 DPS to be a better choice (1.2 seconds * 50). Yes, that's how bad a fast weapon is.

As for professions, they certainly aren't required, but most people will do what they can to squeeze every last drop out of their character. With JC for example, you'd be gaining 42 strength by upgrading 3 gems to Dragon's Eyes. I can't tell you that's worth leveling JC to 450 but in the sense that all it takes to get there is money, it doesn't seem like the barrier to getting there is very high.

Biochemistry and working at Intel? Are you on the Terminator project or what? Please make them not hate humans!
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:32 AM

View PostCharlagain, on Nov 10 2009, 11:29 AM, said:

As for offhand speed, I can't find the post on EJ now but I recall it was something like each 0.1 decrease in speed is equivalent to 50 DPS on the weapon. Take the Reaper of Dark Souls, an Ebon Blade rep reward. It's 2.7 speed and 130 DPS. A 1.5 speed weapon (1.2 seconds faster) would have to be 730 DPS to be a better choice (1.2 seconds * 50). Yes, that's how bad a fast weapon is.

As for professions, they certainly aren't required, but most people will do what they can to squeeze every last drop out of their character. With JC for example, you'd be gaining 42 strength by upgrading 3 gems to Dragon's Eyes. I can't tell you that's worth leveling JC to 450 but in the sense that all it takes to get there is money, it doesn't seem like the barrier to getting there is very high.

Biochemistry and working at Intel? Are you on the Terminator project or what? Please make them not hate humans!


I always thought the weapon speed was inversely related to the damage per hit. But I don't know the system used for scaling melee damage so pretend I never said anything.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:17 PM

View PostOshibo, on Nov 10 2009, 10:24 AM, said:

what does min-max mean? Karela said something having to do with my "min-maxing butt"


Min-maxing is a term that originated from Tabletop RPGs and crossed over to MMOs. It means you're doing everything in your power to make your character the strongest. Think Red Mage in Final Fantasy - Can use Swords, White magic AND Black magic. It's also worthy to note that this term usually has a negative connotation in the Tabletop world, as you're often so focused on how strong your character is that they end up devoid of any personality.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:23 PM

View PostFort, on Nov 10 2009, 02:17 PM, said:

Min-maxing is a term that originated from Tabletop RPGs and crossed over to MMOs. It means you're doing everything in your power to make your character the strongest. Think Red Mage in Final Fantasy - Can use Swords, White magic AND Black magic. It's also worthy to note that this term usually has a negative connotation in the Tabletop world, as you're often so focused on how strong your character is that they end up devoid of any personality.


So basically Karela said that Civic and I are too obsessed with beefing up our toons and lost our sense of selves? Sad day.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:51 PM

View PostWrathblood, on Nov 10 2009, 08:04 AM, said:

Kimi, I'll take a wild stab and say he's a biochem major. Call it a hunch.

I fail :(
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:18 PM

Wrathblood said:

(romancing, count yourself lucky he restrained himself to a single digit's worth of questions)


Heh, Wrath, the number of questions I pose is inversely related to the quality of the app.


However, I thought of another good question on the way home today: why do you have so much +hit gear, when the cap is 8%?

Please let Romancing answer, none of you nutjobs pipe in, because you'll probably be wrong. :D
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:36 PM

Lol, so much hit, because to be honest, the biggest upgrades I could get at the time, always had hit. I'm trying to get two new trinkets actually... to upgrade the ilevel 200, and to replace my hit trinket.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:47 PM

View PostCharlagain, on Nov 10 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

Heh, Wrath, the number of questions I pose is inversely related to the quality of the app.


However, I thought of another good question on the way home today: why do you have so much +hit gear, when the cap is 8%?

Please let Romancing answer, none of you nutjobs pipe in, because you'll probably be wrong. :D


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Posted 10 November 2009 - 07:02 PM

View PostRomancing, on Nov 10 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

Lol, so much hit, because to be honest, the biggest upgrades I could get at the time, always had hit. I'm trying to get two new trinkets actually... to upgrade the ilevel 200, and to replace my hit trinket.


Fair enough. How much hit rating/percent are you aiming for?
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:07 PM

I'm shooting for 8-9%, instead of the hit, I'm looking for gear with armor pen, or crit mainly.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 12:55 AM

Just thought I'd inform you, I switched my spec to blood. Been testing it out in small 10 man pugs. Seems to do a lot better than frost dps wise. Movement is quite a bit easier, and I really appreciate the feedback on that.
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