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Posted 21 October 2009 - 02:08 PM

Discuss your talents and tell us how long you have been this particular spec:

I am Duel Speced:

Beast Mastery 53/13/5: I have used this Spec since i was lv 10. I used 2 raid as BM not because of the cool animals, But because it is my Most Comfortable Spec. I made my own rotation and I do Decent DPS as BM.

Survival:0/19/52: I am Fairly New 2 Survival Spec. I have been using it for the past 2 weeks for raids and i am starting 2 get the hang of it. I know my spec Nor rotation isn't correct but i will correct it in due time.

Ventrilo and do you have a mic:
Yes i have Ventrilo and a Mic, I am constaintly on Ventrillo. Usually Listening.

Typical Weekly Playtime:
Monday-Thursday 3-11 pm Est. Time. *Due 2 School*
Friday-Sunday is 1PM - Whenever.
*I occasionally play football on my weekends.*

Time Zone:
Est-Time Zone

Previous Guilds:
Gated Community

Previous Raiding Experience:
Naxx 10 - Completed
Naxx 25 - Up 2 Construct
EOE 10- Completed
EOE 25- Not Completed
OS 10 & 25- Completed. only 1 drake up.
VoA 10- 25- Completed
Ony 10 - 25- Completed
Uld 10- Up to Keepers
Uld 25- Up to Kologarn
ToC 10- Completed
ToC 25- Never Attempted.

Why are you applying to us:
Well, I have A few friends in the guild and i have raided with this guild several times. They are very organized, very Consistant, and very friendly.

Link us your Armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...p;n=Vickdabeast

*Gotten Upgrades Lately, and Have not dont dailys nor Mining 2 get Money for Enchanting Nor gems, and I have not Unlocked Sons Of Hodir Dailies for Shoulder Enchants.*


Wow web stats reports:
I do not know this Unfortunately.

Do you know anyone in guild? If so please list your pals.
Well the people i do know are Wrathblood, Metallican, Rohanna, and Serror

Tell us a bit about yourself:
A bit about me, I am 15, Currently Attending High School 10th Grader, i Love Football and Games, I am a very Friendly person, and I like 2 raid and Have Fun.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 02:36 PM

very young
sobe making better players since 06'
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 02:55 PM

Did Ony 10 with him and he was the only one even remotely close to me on the meters. Maybe with a little help from Solar he could be a great asset to this guild. :lol:
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 02:59 PM

2 legit 2 quit.

I'm always a bit wary of they young'uns but if he can mash buttons well enough then /shrug. My impression is that he knows next to nothing about the nuances of the class; not sure how able and willing he is to pick it up quickly. With the number of recruits we have atm (lack of hunters notwithstanding) I'm not sure if it's in our best interest to take on too many "projects."
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:11 PM

View PostSobeyet, on Oct 21 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

2 legit 2 quit.

I'm always a bit wary of they young'uns but if he can mash buttons well enough then /shrug. My impression is that he knows next to nothing about the nuances of the class; not sure how able and willing he is to pick it up quickly. With the number of recruits we have atm (lack of hunters notwithstanding) I'm not sure if it's in our best interest to take on too many "projects."


What Must I Learn or Change? I Am Always Up 2 Get Better And Learn My Mistakes and/or Flaws
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:24 PM

I've been chatting on and off with Vick for a while about applying. When he started, he was in Naxx 10 and heroics gear, and he and I had a chat about what's expected from people who want to raid. He took it to heart, and decided to really work on his character to make him a serious candidate for acceptance, in terms of gear, itemization and spec. He started steadily working on his spec, picking up new gear, gems and enchants, and working on his rotation. His gear and dps have improved pretty dramatically since then, and I know that his ungemmed pieces were just picked up in the last day or so.

I have no idea how well he knows the mechanics of the hunter class, and he's pretty young, but I know that's been been dedicated and sincere in working on the advice I gave him weeks ago, and after running a couple 10-mans with him in the last week, I can attest to Bear's comment that he can do some solid damage.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:33 PM

View PostVick, on Oct 21 2009, 04:11 PM, said:

What Must I Learn or Change? I Am Always Up 2 Get Better And Learn My Mistakes and/or Flaws


Start with the fundamentals, plenty of information to to absorb out there.

http://elitistjerks.com/f74/

I'd focus on learning the spec/rotation first - what abilities and talents you have in your arsenal, basic rotation, why one ability is better in a situation than another.

Then I'd worry about proper gearing, starting with gems and enchants. FYI, if you don't have money for basic gems and enchants, you probably won't be able to afford raiding on wipe nights.

Then there's pet management. This is a neverending process, but you want to be at a basic level of competence before being thrown into the really hard fights. (tldr - don't leave the pet standing in fire)

Then boss fights. Some guilds have tweaks to the general strat, but it's good to know the basic abilities so you're not going in blind.

After that you get into more of the advanced theorycrafting, but it's not a requirement to be a competent player. If you know the stuff above and you can faceroll buttons you'll be better off than most people.

Also, next time you run something (even a 5-man, 10-man would be fine, 25 ideal) take a combatlog and post it here. Google WWS or World of Logs and you should be able to figure it out.

I'm leaving things kind of open ended, but it's partly because I want to see how well you can learn on your own and partly because I'm lazy.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:36 PM

View PostSobeyet, on Oct 21 2009, 03:33 PM, said:

Start with the fundamentals, plenty of information to to absorb out there.

http://elitistjerks.com/f74/

I'd focus on learning the spec/rotation first - what abilities and talents you have in your arsenal, basic rotation, why one ability is better in a situation than another.

Then I'd worry about proper gearing, starting with gems and enchants. FYI, if you don't have money for basic gems and enchants, you probably won't be able to afford raiding on wipe nights.

Then there's pet management. This is a neverending process, but you want to be at a basic level of competence before being thrown into the really hard fights. (tldr - don't leave the pet standing in fire)

Then boss fights. Some guilds have tweaks to the general strat, but it's good to know the basic abilities so you're not going in blind.

After that you get into more of the advanced theorycrafting, but it's not a requirement to be a competent player. If you know the stuff above and you can faceroll buttons you'll be better off than most people.

Also, next time you run something (even a 5-man, 10-man would be fine, 25 ideal) take a combatlog and post it here. Google WWS or World of Logs and you should be able to figure it out.

I'm leaving things kind of open ended, but it's partly because I want to see how well you can learn on your own and partly because I'm lazy.


Okay. I will take that 2 Heart. Thank You Sir/Ma'am for the Advice. I Will Work On That ASAP.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:50 PM

View PostVick, on Oct 21 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

Okay. I will take that 2 Heart. Thank You Sir/Ma'am for the Advice. I Will Work On That ASAP.


Sure, good luck to ya. Also no need for the Sir/Ma'am business (inb4SobeOld jokes), I might flex epeen about being better than people at WoW but we're all the same watery-flesh sacks in the grand scheme of things.

Being nervous or intimidated won't help you perform; learning to play better shouldn't feel like work. That's one of my concerns about the age thing - we can be pretty blunt with the critcism around here. Good to see that you've gotten 2 people to say you do decent dps though.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:52 PM

View PostSobeyet, on Oct 21 2009, 03:50 PM, said:

Sure, good luck to ya. Also no need for the Sir/Ma'am business (inb4SobeOld jokes), I might flex epeen about being better than people at WoW but we're all the same watery-flesh sacks in the grand scheme of things.

Being nervous or intimidated won't help you perform; learning to play better shouldn't feel like work. That's one of my concerns about the age thing - we can be pretty blunt with the critcism around here. Good to see that you've gotten 2 people to say you do decent dps though.


My Apologies I Am Just Naturally Polite and Nice. Thank You For The Help Tho. And I Hope If I Get Accepted I Won't Let Y'all Down.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 04:03 PM

View PostVick, on Oct 21 2009, 04:52 PM, said:

My Apologies I Am Just Naturally Polite and Nice. Thank You For The Help Tho. And I Hope If I Get Accepted I Won't Let Y'all Down.


I suspect this kid is German with all the capitalizations...
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 04:07 PM

View PostLen, on Oct 21 2009, 04:03 PM, said:

I suspect this kid is German with all the capitalizations...


Nah I'm American. Just cap letters a lot.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 04:08 PM

View PostLen, on Oct 21 2009, 09:03 PM, said:

I suspect this kid is German with all the capitalizations...

Nah, if he was German he would only be capitalizing all of the nouns.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 04:18 PM

One more note, I'm assuming you're a clicker so I'd try to get comfortable with keybindings asap. Hunters have to do a lot of micromanaging - you might be moving, shooting, and positioning your pet within a single GCD - so you pay a harsher penalty from clicking than classes with a 2-3 sec nuke. BGs are a good place to practice, whenever I mess with my keybindings I usually run some to build up the muscle memory.

Here's what I used for SV back in the day - it's a bit dated but you get the idea.

View PostSobeyet, on Mar 23 2009, 08:01 PM, said:

Here are the major keybindings I use:

1. Mark Macro
2. Explosive Shot (shift) Wyvern Sting (ctrl) Viper Sting
3. Multi Shot (shift) Serpent Sting
4. Steady Shot (shift) Scatter Shot
5. Volley (shift) Concussive Shot
6. Disengage (shift) Deterrance
Q. Feign Death (shift) Frost Trap (ctrl) Tranq Shot
E. Misdirect (shift) PvP trinket (ctrl) Melee macro

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 04:35 PM

View PostSobeyet, on Oct 21 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

One more note, I'm assuming you're a clicker so I'd try to get comfortable with keybindings asap.

IF you click, or don't use many binds try getting an addon called Opie, and bind your Misdirect to right click on target(what I use). Also start using basic rotation with binds, since binding all your abilities at once can be a handful to get used to.

edit: looked at armory, you should be gemming completely into agility and put a +10 stats gem to make up for your Meta in whatever would yield the best bonus (8 agility+). Only time I, would gem anything other than +20/16 would be if the bonus is +8 agility, which would be a agility/crit or agi/hit gem anyways. For your boots, you want either +16 agility or tuskars vitality (15 stam/minor runspeed). Same with gems agility is the key stat to stack when it comes to any enchant really, as long as the equiveleant in other stats isn't to drastic of a change. Reason I say tuskar's vitality, is since 8% speed increase is amazing in all of the toc fights, and the majority from Ulduar. As Sobey said you spend time running around having to manage your pet and attacking at same time, which means the faster you can get somewhere and stop to cast another steady shot, the more damage you will do. You also want to start working on sons of hodir rep, not a huge upgrade in dps in the sense of comparing it to other things, but it shows effort put into your character. For spec, you could try a spec something like mineArmory and tweak it around with your gear on Zeherah's Hunter Dps Analyzer Your glyphs seems good, and other than the lack of enchants and sub-optimal raiding professions there's not much else to say
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 05:57 PM

Getting Account Back in 4-7 days. Will Change everything when i can
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 10:38 AM

View PostVick, on Oct 21 2009, 06:57 PM, said:

Getting Account Back in 4-7 days. Will Change everything when i can



Kool woot gratz...i no vick even if he didnt say it on the app lol
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