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Posted 05 October 2009 - 03:33 PM

View PostWrathblood, on Oct 5 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

No, no. He means the other setting: "Always pulls aggro to satisfy epeen".


Pulling aggro when Muck is tanking doesn't count.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:03 PM

View PostFort, on Oct 5 2009, 01:49 PM, said:

From my personal experience I've noticed that I actually do less working in chain lightning. I actually ran 2 different times on the dummy, one with and one without and the run with chain in the rotation did significantly less damage (ontop of running outa mana wicked fast). Matter of fact, here's the screenshot of the go with chain lightning in the rotation -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/xGe...0509_011038.jpg


Interesting. I'm pretty sure I saw a noticable increase in DPS when I switched to a chain lightning rotation(Chain Lightning-after-LvB), guess it's time to investigate and see.

We'll have to have some research sessions if you get into the guild.


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I was trying to get all the damage out in one mana bar, so as my mana went low I started using chain less and less just to be able to keep going. My only theory on why the DPS was so significantly different would be the totem of electrifying wind. It procs off of Lightning bolt but not Chain, so it would have a less uptime with less lightning bolt use.

It's not so much that you want to use Chain Lightning on every cool down, that wont be good, but the fact that is fires off so quickly after linghtning bolt and does about the same damage as lightning bolt, it is acceptable to use after a lava burst, becaue the crit from lava burst will proc a clear casting, reducing the cost of chain-lightning by enough to make it reasonable.

The reason I set the number at about 800,000 is because thats about how much I've been able to do in the past before i go oom, when it's just me and my buffs really between 600k and a million would've been fine

I haven't tested my dps on the dummy in a long long time though, so we'll see.

I can see now after thinking about it, if you are reaching for 800k damage with a CL heavy rotation, you wont make it, you'll run out of mana before you hit it, so you start spamming TS to try and keep up and it lowers your dps, any ways thats just a theory.

CL heavy rotations aren't good, but CL only after LvB should be a DPS increase.

Also I noticed your TS did some damage in the original screen shot, it was probably hitting the near by lower level dummies, TS wont always do damage unless you want to go stand with the melee, and there are a few fights that that is not a good idea(mimiron, Beasts, etc)

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Oh and about Binkenstein, I actually have read a lot of his stuff. Elitist jerks is like my go-to spot, I just didn't remember that it was his name in the post. I realized that when I went searching for it last night.

Yep, He's my hero and he wrote/is writing our bible :D
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:07 PM

View PostInnocence, on Oct 5 2009, 05:03 PM, said:

We'll have to have some research sessions if you get into the guild.


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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:11 PM

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:11 PM

View PostVrex, on Oct 5 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:18 PM

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 05:29 PM

What the fuck is this shit
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:04 PM

Binkenstein said:

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A CL-after-LvB rotation will be the best one to use, unless you require higher dps at specific times where CL on CD will be better (note that using CL on CD will consume more mana, so you can't use it as long as a CL after LvB rotation. There was an error in SEIC that overstated CL damage. The gain is now 67/158 for After LvB/On CD rotations, so it may not be practical/useful to use CL in normal rotations after all


Found this today.

Guy needs a news letter or something.

Guess it's my own fault for not testing my own shit and depending on other sources for my information.



I did my own tests and was able to pull about 200-300 higher dps with a CL-After-LB Rotation, but that might have been RNG.

I did something like 700k damage with CL in the mix and then 700k damage with out it, i was about to go like 15 or 15% longer w/o CL but thats obvious, but the difference is, i did the same amount of damage with CL in a shorter time period(Dur higher DPS)
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