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Lvl 70 Restoration Druid App

#1 Guest_Minimoe_*

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Posted 27 April 2007 - 10:15 AM

Current Talent spec: 0/0/61 (I'm a tree)

Explain your talent spec at 70: I'm a healer and always have been.

Willing to respec if needed? Honestly no I'm not willing to respec. Trust me when I say I'd be horrible at dps.

Do you have ventrilo?
I have ventrilo installed and I have a headset w/mic.

Typical Weekly Playtime: Mon - Wed 6pm - 11pm, Sun 12pm - 11pm

Time Zone: EST (East coast USA)

Previous Guilds: Reconstructed (still have my 70 priest there and alts)

Previous Raiding Experience: ZG, AQ20, MC, BWL, AQ40, Karazhan up to Curator.

Why are you applying to us?
I like to raid with my druid. Your guild is one of only a couple on this server that I would consider joining.

Anything else you'd like to add?

For those wondering, yes I still have characters in Reconstructed. Unfortunately at this time I am unable to use my druid for raiding because we needed a priest. I love playing my druid and don't want to shelve him just yet. I was hoping to get some use out of him on nights that I don't run with my priest. I just like to raid. I don't mind putting in the time to learn new encounters. Oh and my druid has 375 tribal leatherworking and skinning professions.

Another thing is that I'm married, have a family and work full time. On weekdays I'm limited to 11pm due to the fact that I'm old and need my beauty sleep. Come to think of it, I'm in bed rather early on weekends too due to the same reasons. I am willing to stay up a bit later if the situation calls for it. Such as we are at a boss encounter and want to give it another attempt. Those sorts of things.

Thanks for taking the time to review my application. I've included my armory link in my signature so you can view my armor and other things.
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 12:11 PM

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Willing to respec if needed? Honestly no I'm not willing to respec. Trust me when I say I'd be horrible at dps.


If I said (and this is baloney, but a hypothetical) 0/25/36 was a better healing build, would you be willing to respec?

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Typical Weekly Playtime: Mon - Wed 6pm - 11pm, Sun 12pm - 11pm


Any availability Thursday (viz, raid times)?

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Anything else you'd like to add?

For those wondering, yes I still have characters in Reconstructed. Unfortunately at this time I am unable to use my druid for raiding because we needed a priest.


If we recruit you, are you splitting yourself between two guilds?
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#3 Guest_Minimoe_*

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Posted 27 April 2007 - 05:23 PM

If it was proven to me that there is a better healing spec than tree form then I'd definately consider it. I wouldn't just change spec because someone told me so. As far as running stuff on Thursdays it's possible but I'd have to get back to you on that one.

Splitting my time up between guilds. If you mean will I be playing both my priest and my druid then yes. Basically I'm interested in raiding on both characters. If you are trying to find out if I'm going to commit 100% of my time to playing my druid I can say now that no I won't be. I would however commit to definate raid times each week with your guild. And I still have a lot of rep grinding to do on this char so I would be available for 5 mans and such.

Currently in Reconstructed we only do Karazhan a couple times a week. That gives me quite a bit of freedom to do other things as well. If your guild requires that all of someone's toons be in your guild then I respectfully withdraw my application.
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#4 User is offline   yober 

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Posted 28 April 2007 - 06:41 AM

This is just my opinion...i dont know this guy personally so i hope he doesnt take it so....but every guild i have been in<and yes ive led a few in everquest...city of heroes...and even attempted it here in warcraft> it has been a very horrible practice to invite someone that splits time between two guilds. In my opinion it just causes conflicts...scheduals change  etc etc.  Ive seen many people that went this same route got their alt geared up then went back to their old guild and made that char their main since gear was a requirement to be in the guild. Once again not a personal attack, this is just my opinion and what ive experienced.  Ultimitly its up to the officers, and your honesty with your talents and splitting is admirable, but i would lean more towards hesitation.  We also dont want to be teaching other guilds our strategies and such....theres just many reasons.


                    Yober
<b>[color=darkgreen]Yober, 70 Hunter</b>
<b>[color=red]Mastablasta, 70 Warrior</b>
<b>[color=white]Stigma, 70 Priest</b>
<b>[color=blue]Lorcan, 70 Mage</b>

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Posted 28 April 2007 - 10:57 AM

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We also dont want to be teaching other guilds our strategies and such....theres just many reasons.


                    Yober


First off I'd just like to say wow. To me this is a game. I play a game to have fun. That's all I want to do. There are lots of other reasons why I'm applying here which I'd rather not delve into on a public thread. As far as strategies go there are tons of websites full of information and videos. I don't need to waste my time joining your guild just to get your "strategies". I'm not an officer or raid leader in Reconstructed. I'm a regular member. I'm baffled that horde guilds are so paranoid about the possibility of someone learning their "secrets". Especially when there are guilds much further along in raiding than you that have posted up videos and diatribes on how to complete all the end game content. The truth is that Reconstructed doesn't have enough dedicated players to make the progress you do. It has nothing to do with strategies. There is a small group of core players that are really good. Just not enough to make progress raiding.

I also wanted to mention that I find it hard to believe that anyone actually is naive enough to believe that none of their guild mates have a toon in another guild. I personally know of a few people in your guild that raid and have toons in other guilds. I'm not sure I follow the  concern over "splitting time". Everyone splits time between different chars. And why is it so bad if someone has characters with different guild tags? Last I knew there were no issues between Reconstructed and Heresiarch.

Guilds take on any new member with some sort of trepidation but you do assume the risk that they may leave. So I pose this question to you. Is there so much more risk involved in accepting a member that is open and honest about their situation like me? One would think my honesty is a merit unto itself to show my character. But obviously I leave that up to the powers that be. I apologize for the long winded response to your concerns.
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 11:29 AM

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Last I knew this was a game not a competition. I wasn't applying to steal your secrets. I just want to play a game and have fun. And I have a hard time believing that you are that naive to assume that you don't have members with toons in other guilds. I personally know of a few. Your guild is no way near completing the content that many many other guilds in this game have already done. The strategies for all the bosses in this game are freely available on the internet along with videos. I wouldn't need to join your guild to get them. The truth is my other guild just lacks the dedicated players at this time to make the same progress you guys do. It has nothing to do with strategies.


Many of the older members of this guild are well aware that there's a long jump from "teh internets told us how" to actually making something happen. The fact of the matter is, being there and doing it makes a huge difference. Whether or not you believe that "stealing" can be done, or is relevant, is irrelevant: As the recruiting officer, I believe it can happen, and my opinion is the one that matters.

However, my opinion is also that we will lose members, as a natural matter of course, regardless of any controllable factor (aka, if only I would stop being a jerkface). So being overly concerned with a brain drain is a futile exercise - I may as well hope to change the weather by worrying about it.

While I am aware of a few of our members having characters in other guilds, to my knowledge, these are all alt/twink guilds, or little played neglected characters that weren't viewed as worth the effort of detagging due to their inactivity. Not that I particularly care.

At any rate, this is an interesting app, but this conversation is irrelevant to the app.

I have a question I wish to pose to the collected wisdom of our officers (in private) to determine the fate of your app, Minimoe, that's all there is to this.
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 11:46 AM

Actually after some long thought I've decided to respectfully withdraw my application. After reading the concerns posted about my application I feel that I would be entering into a stressful if not hostile environment in your guild. I think many of your members may not trust me or feel that I'm a "spy". When applying to your guild it was not my intention to create drama among your player base.

I hope that this endeavor will not leave a black mark on any future application I may submit if my current situation changes. I wish you guys the best of luck and sorry for the inconvenience.
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 12:49 PM

It is unfortunate that you won't be learning how absolutely inconceiveable words like "drama", "stressful," and "hostile" are to me.

If I convince you of nothing else, it is that I am a rational creature. All applications are based on their own merits - the only time an app by virtue of apping tanks their app would be in the case of Sinithir, which is available for reading. "I don't have the whole story, but you guys are jerkfaces!"

I look forward to your good fortune.
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 05:11 PM

Starts? Who cares, if someone asks how we do something, I'll gladly tell them, it doesn't matter.  We get nothing by other Horde guilds lagging behind.  I personally don't see any reason to worry about people apping for this reason, where I'd personally just give said information merely to be helpful.

The thing about the alts though, isn't about them being in another guild, more so I believe about raiding with another guild.  This touches on plenty of spots, and I don't see any warranted hostilities here, nor should there be.

If you feel like re-apping some time man, should you ever be able to give youe full raiding time, please do so.  Until that time, I wish you luck in Reconstructed, or any other guild which you might end up at, in the mean time.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 05:54 AM

minimoe  just for the record....please re read the part where i said its nothing personal.  The learning the strat and then takeing it back to their guild comment was just something i had experienced with someone splitting time.  It was never an accusation to you that you where going to do it.....and more so was i not saying that i felt heresiarch hides its strats and dont want other people to konw about it.  The time split thing wasnt just about gearing up two people....have also run into the issue where you had two mains in two guilds and one of the guilds decided to change its rotation of raid nights that conflicted with the other.  How do you determine which one you give up?  It was just an issue with my former guild gearing up people that left for schedual reasons and having dedicated members of our guild still needed the same gear.  Im passionate about things that i do in life...and well in game.  Im passionate about this guild and what it does, and i felt that as a member i had to state some of the obvious things im sure the officers already had go through their heads.  Im also an adult and trust me when i say there would be no drama here.  I just stated some of my opinions.  I am an outspoken type of guy and tend to do so.  I could also give a shit.  If the officers saw fit to invite you it would be on them and i would be cool with it because it was something they decided.  There was no drama here.....there was no paranoia. It was one member just tossing out some opinions on what "could be."  This guild of all the guilds ive ever been in across many games is probably filled with the least amount of drama.  They also are very open to member opinions and i was just giving mine.  Good luck wherever you end up minimoe.  If it ends up back here reapping in a month...well good luck to you then also.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 04:17 PM

* He's tagged.

* Whether or not information leaks out of the guild in the form of ex-members, I don't care (I do care about direct leaks). The officers know of a case-and-point that just knowing isn't the same as doing.

* Yober had an opinion. I like opinions, I have them too, and the more eyes, the more accountability.

* Druids unite, amg.
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