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No offense to the Chinese

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 08:07 AM

look no offense to the chinese cuz I got tons of asian friends and family, but if you have children, please watch out in their toy-piles for a toy known as "Aqua-Dots" because it is the latest toy added to the recall-list and what makes this one especially dangerous is that the toys from this line sold over the summer have ingredients that once combined, turn into something that has the effect of GHB, aka "The Date Rape Drug"... a lil girl in the UK was rushed to the hospital for ingesting the toys and passing out... I am not racist by any means, cuz I hate everyone equally but this type of situation is absolutely horrible. We as a global community are fighting a new type of economic-warfare which is aimed at crippling our future generations of those affected because the effects of this current part of the economic-cycle are not just financial, as that the health ramifications are devastating... Please be very cautious  not just this holiday season, but with everytime you shop for children because it is very apparent that videogame systems and the toys along those pricing guidelines are not undergoing the same garbage that these other toys are... People can rant and rave about all the issues surrounding this post concerning the issue, but once again I will say from the bottom of my heart that I do not hate the Chinese, but I am starting to get very angry over their toy-industries putting our children at risk more and more as the days turn to months.... please once again, remove all "Aqua-Dots" toys from your childrens toyboxes...
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 08:42 AM

Yes, please, forward all aquadots to me directly, PM me for address.....
In all seriousness, toys made in China are no more dangerous than those made here in the good 'ol US and A. What is really going on with all this lead paint/GHB nonsense is a good old fashioned helping of economic protectionism fueled by fear and mis-information. The materials used in the domestic production of toys and whatnot are identical to those made in China.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, do not succumb to your fears and believe that these toy issues are part of a clandestine war where the "Chinese" are intentionally poisoning our children in an attempt to cripple our future.
Their kids are playing with toys made some materials of the ones that are sent here. This is not some huge conspiracy.
If you plan on only buying toys made in the US for your kids this holiday season, congratulations, you just fell victim to media propagated fear-mongering and blatant economic protectionism.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 12:32 PM

Barn...im hopeing your doing some research here....cause my grandfather works for hasbro for 46 years now and he tells me the same thing.  Something happened at the overseas plant with faulty chemical mix...cutting corners...hes not sure  but he assures me that the issue is stemming from the overseas plants and not from the us plant he works at in rhode island
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 02:58 PM

well in our political science classes, the same students who will be working in the think-tanks are almost all in unison with their thoughts in that we are tending to believe that someone has purposely screwed over the chemical mixes for toy-ingredients because alot of these toys that are turning up in countries that do not share ideologies similar to the chinese... whether it be a government or the actions of a limited few, it all equals the same thing being that which means our children are at risk... please get rid of any and all toys from your child's toy-bin that are on that toy-recall list, but please for the love of humanity, make sure that your child is not playing with "Aqua Dots". They go by various names in other countries so please do the research and see if this toy is in your collection because GHB will not just knock someone out, in some cases it is known to kill people.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 03:46 PM

WARNING

I have a very simular experience, after my cousin ingested a part of a toy that was never meant to be eaten, he too became incredibly ill.  While much like Aqua Dots, parents can't be bothered to monitor their children, it should be up to the toy companies to make everything at least 5'x5', and coated in soft foam.

But back to my cousin, after injesting the parts and reporting this, I came to find out that this has been happening all over the world, mainly with children that have been dropped on their heads.  The list of suspected individuals is topped by this character below:

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His name is unknown, but his ways are always the same.

After looking into the product, and finding thier leader above, I too fell prey to his cool demeanor, those glasses reminding me of another childhood icon, that thumping drum, I too thought it might be cool to eat batteries. I was wrong.

So be warned when eating small objects that were never meant to be eaten in the first place, because it's not paranoia when they ARE actually out to get you..
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 04:18 PM

LMAO that just made me laugh my butt off, thank you for making me laugh  :D I thought I was reading a real serious post then seen the pic of the bunny LOL  ;D
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 04:43 PM

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well in our political science classes, the same students who will be working in the think-tanks are almost all in unison with their thoughts in that we are tending to believe that someone has purposely screwed over the chemical mixes for toy-ingredients because alot of these toys that are turning up in countries that do not share ideologies similar to the chinese... whether it be a government or the actions of a limited few, it all equals the same thing being that which means our children are at risk...


Correlation Vs. Causation
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 06:09 PM

Sakrifice, I gotta say... that's some paranoid stuff there.  I'm pretty sure it is just poor regulation and quality control - that's part of why China's labor is so cheap.

Also, while it's narrowly possible to die from ingesting too much, it's not like GHB is a subtle "make america stupid" chemical... I don't see how making all of a few dozen kids sick and maybe putting a couple in a coma constitutes economic warfare - it's not going to cripple our labor force...

Barn & Yober - American factories make mistakes, too.  However, there are fewer made because of careful quality control; when your brand is on the line, cutting corners hurts you far more in the long run, and American business owners understand that.  So you're both kinda right.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 06:52 PM

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Barn...im hopeing your doing some research here....cause my grandfather works for hasbro for 46 years now and he tells me the same thing. 


Wait, wait. Are you saying Hasbro and all of Corporate America have NEVER cut corners or put profits ahead of safety, all on the say so of your grandfather?

Sakrifice said:

well in our political science classes,


If they're anything like my political science classes, they're filled with mouth breathing retards who might be able to regurgitate a talking point from Fox News if you fed them the noun and verb.

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because alot of these toys that are turning up in countries that do not share ideologies similar to the chinese...


The Chinese are communist. Since they are making toys for sale and profit, capitalist ideas, it stands to reason there would be a 100% correlation. So. I stand by my previous statement - the room full of Sherlock Holmes are F@#@ing retarded.

Let me share a startling fact with you -

On the last day of everyone's life, they breathed. Clearly, breathing is a long term detriment to our health.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 07:13 PM

For me, the thing is, if anyone actually looked these Aqua Dots up.. they are meant to be more or less a version of paint..

I mean, are the Chinese sitting over there going..

"Haha! You Stupid Americans, we have you now you paint eaters!"

I mean, if it was something that was meant to be ingested, then maybe..

..if your kids can't resist the yummy fruit flavour of lead paint chips, don't give it to them.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 07:20 PM

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For me, the thing is, if anyone actually looked these Aqua Dots up.. they are meant to be more or less a version of paint..

I mean, are the Chinese sitting over there going..

"Haha! You Stupid Americans, we have you now you paint eaters!"

I mean, if it was something that was meant to be ingested, then maybe..

..if your kids can't resist the yummy fruit flavour of lead paint chips, don't give it to them.


Have you considered a degree in political science, Ash? I suspect it may be a bit of a walk for you, and for employment, like gerbils, paper lined walls always look good.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 07:26 PM

In my post-apocalyptic future, all policians are placed into the Blend-O-Matic 2000.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 11:27 PM

[quote author=Daksuo link=topic=1127.msg5411#msg5411 date=1194565932]
[quote author=yober link=topic=1127.msg5393#msg5393 date=1194543122]
Barn...im hopeing your doing some research here....cause my grandfather works for hasbro for 46 years now and he tells me the same thing.  [/quote]

Wait, wait. Are you saying Hasbro and all of Corporate America have NEVER cut corners or put profits ahead of safety, all on the say so of your grandfather?


My post wasn't related to hasbro has a whole cutting corners or anything about profits  ...my comment was directly related to the recall of product in the last year all comeing from the same assembly line.  My grandfather wasnt defending hasbro as a company since the chinese factory is owned by them....was just stateing that said factory was the root of most of the issues
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Posted 09 November 2007 - 09:05 AM

I would tend to agree with the protectionism theory. American dealings with Canada recently have reflected protectionism despite the free trade agreement, using loop holes to block and tariff our exports.

Many U.S companies make worse mistakes and get a 1 day editorial done on them or less. Hi bridgestone firestone tires killing people for years, na its ok we recalled those it's totaly not our fault if they weren't all returned.

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And i'm sure there are many more things that could kill or harm you out there that no one has died from yet so there are no recalls. Try to remain objective, generalizing an entire country because CNN said so is ridiculous, i think we all remember CNN showing us pictures of possible nukes in iraq... The towers collapsing at nauseum when the u.s was deciding on war on iraq.(who were not responsible for the event)

Many Governments have a bad history of creating panic/fear in their populace to get them to act differently.  The media/government sensationalizes everything if it suits them, i'm wondering if this would be so huge if christmas wasn't coming up. China/Asia is where a lot if not most of the U.S imports come from. The U.S and Canada because i dont want to seem anti american have a lot to gain by having ppl shopping at home this time of season.

I'm not saying aquadots are safe, but i'm opposed to mass stereotyping.
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Posted 09 November 2007 - 02:30 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/08/...tr=HOME_3475893

i <3 this article sooooo much!!
Please, you read!

I especially got a kick out of the idea of the dog as a safer alternative, classic!
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Posted 10 November 2007 - 05:21 AM

http://64.182.49.239/

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 04:08 AM

Please tell me that article Barn linked is lying, SOMEONE!?

30% of polled parents aren't buying their kids ANY toys this Christmas because, *GASP*, some toys had a tad too much lead in the paint for regulations?  They probably grew up with pure lead paint chipping off the walls for the most part themselves - the kids are more likely to die on the drive to school than from those toys.
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 08:47 AM

I hate to break this to you, Juggler, but it seems you've somehow gotten this far without knowing

NEWSFLASH

People are stupid.

(And my nephew is not getting any toys from me)
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 12:57 PM

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(And my nephew is not getting any toys from me)


I would venture to guess this has nothing to do w/ lead paint or GHB...
(just to clarify for any alarmists who may think otherwise)
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:12 AM

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(And my nephew is not getting any toys from me)


I would venture to guess this has nothing to do w/ lead paint or GHB...
(just to clarify for any alarmists who may think otherwise)


Boo to you being more cunning then the average fish.
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